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Rzrbackguy, I've warmed to your guy Kevin Kelley coaching Presbyterian College

Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47297 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:14 am
He put himself out on a limb there.



he's paying his dues and he's got a smile on his face. I like it.

they got their butts handed to them by Campbell College, but Campbell has scholarship players and this is the year Presbyterian went down to no-scholarship ball

Interesting move and I like the fact that he's starting at the bottom of the college game to see what he can accomplish

He's also coming around to finding exceptions to the no punting and always kicking onside thing. He had a good interview with Dan Patrick a few weeks ago and talked about it.

He's got the Hefley kid from Bryant playing QB for him

I'll bet Kelley does one more year at non-scholarship Presbyterian College and then gets a job at somewhere like Murray State, SEMO, scholarship teams.

It would be fun to see a FBS low tier like New Mexico State take a chance on him. What would they have to lose?
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12679 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 8:58 am to
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He's also coming around to finding exceptions to the no punting and always kicking onside thing.


If he can fine tune this approach, he could do amazing things.

There's a happy medium between always playing the numbers and being too traditionally conservative in approach.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 9:00 am
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19330 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:01 am to
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He's also coming around to finding exceptions to the no punting and always kicking onside thing

You can't onside kick it against teams with higher level coaching. You'll get murdered.
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3429 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 9:31 am to
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There's a happy medium between always playing the numbers and being too traditionally conservative in approach.


You should always play the number. However the number change based on the situation. If you score 90% of drives and have a crap defense you should almost never punt. If you score on 10% of drives and have the 85 bears defense you should punt every time.
Posted by V Bainbridge
Member since Jul 2020
8089 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 10:06 am to
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If he can fine tune this approach, he could do amazing things.

This. Everyone thought the single wing offense was a useless relic till we rolled out the wildcat with DMac. He will have to tweak it but I think it could end up being the new big thing.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12679 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:36 pm to
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You should always play the number. However the number change based on the situation.


Yeah, I didn't word that well.

To your point, the happy medium is playing the numbers while factoring in all variables of the situation.
Posted by Rzrbackguy
Apalachicola, FL
Member since Jul 2014
2531 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 12:50 pm to
I'm with you Harry Rex.

Not much left for him to accomplish in HS football and he's enjoying chance to refine his approach on the next level. He's totally outclassed by Campbell, but I suspect by next year he'll have PC able to compete even when that outmanned.

Yeah...he'll get into the numbers and refine his rules for punts and offside kicks. The real challenge will be to see if he can install/tweak the offense that PA ran at this level.

This offense was built around creating and exploiting weaknesses and he didn't often go up against defensive coordinators that could study film for weeks and prepare. It'll be fun to watch.

Coach Kelley may come across as cocky or even arrogant sometimes, but he's a very high character guy who instilled the type of loyalty in his kids that we're seeing Pittman build up on the hill.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 12:51 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47297 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:47 pm to
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If he can fine tune this approach, he could do amazing things.

There's a happy medium between always playing the numbers and being too traditionally conservative in approach.



for sure

I mean, 4th and 10 at your own 20 yard line, come on...
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
47297 posts
Posted on 9/29/21 at 1:59 pm to
Hell, Bill Belichik likes the guy and Kelley has his number - he should do one more year at Presbyterian and then go do an assistant to the assistant special teams or offensive QC gig with the Pats for only one year and see what next job that takes him to


He's openly been willing to literally take contracts where he only gets paid on games he wins, at the D1 level. You lose, you don't get paid. That's what the doctor ordered for financially strapped New Mexico State, Akron, La Monroe, UTEP, Bowling Green, etc

And agree to no buyout?

Do it on a temporary basis until you prove yourself, then if you get a better AAC or CUSA job you've arrived and you play the normal game at that point. The interesting thing would be the climb.
This post was edited on 9/29/21 at 2:00 pm
Posted by Poker_hog
Member since Mar 2019
3429 posts
Posted on 10/9/21 at 2:00 pm to
We should not punt or kick off the 2nd half against ole miss
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