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Penn St. shows the buyout doesn't matter
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:24 pm
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:24 pm
A serious program will not tolerate failure of that caliber. We are not a serious program.
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:33 pm to boogiewoogie1978
What about the 3 7-6 seasons he’s posted and the losing season at 4-5? They seemed to tolerate all of those.
And I’d rather cut my right hand off than use Penn State’s football program as a beacon for replication.
And I’d rather cut my right hand off than use Penn State’s football program as a beacon for replication.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:12 pm to boogiewoogie1978
Maybe they aren’t very smart though having to pay a coach 50 million to leave. Florida is in a similar situation.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:16 pm to boogiewoogie1978
I mean we’ve known we’re not a serious program for awhile now
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:27 pm to STLhog
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What about the 3 7-6 seasons he’s posted and the losing season at 4-5? They seemed to tolerate all of those.
He had a run of a couple of good seasons then got a massive raise. Sound familiar?
Differnce is they didn't try to hold on due to buyout.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:37 pm to boogiewoogie1978
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A serious program will not tolerate failure of that caliber.
Ehh…they tolerated dabbling in little kids for years.
Franklin had to have pissed off a big booster…Penn State isn’t Michigan, Ohio State, or USC in the Big Ten. They have won two titles and their last was 40 years ago. Penn State is closer to Arkansas than they are to Ohio State. Penn Stae believes they’re on the level of Ohio State, but they’re not.
Up until they joined the Big Ten in 1992, their yearly schedule normally consisted of Temple, Pitt, West Virginia, Boston College, East Carolina, Maryland, Penn, Navy, and Rutgers. While they had a crap ton of regular season wins, a lot of those were against the teams above in their over 100 years prior to joining the Big Ten.
They just fired a coach that won 70% of his games. Was one score from playing for the national title last season. Won 10+ games 6 times. Won a school record 13 games last season.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:44 pm to Hawgeye
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Franklin had to have pissed off a big booster
The twitters said something about Adidas being the driving force behind getting him fired
Posted on 10/12/25 at 8:52 pm to Hawgeye
You’re not wrong about that. They were basically a Big East team for a good portion of their history.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:00 pm to boogiewoogie1978
He was there forever after proving he wasnt the guy long ago
Not sure this is the situation you want to argue this point
Not sure this is the situation you want to argue this point
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:03 pm to boogiewoogie1978
And they’re about to hire Matt Rhule.
Sounds exactly like us, maybe even dumber.
Sounds exactly like us, maybe even dumber.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:12 pm to STLhog
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And they’re about to hire Matt Rhule. Sounds exactly like us, maybe even dumber.
They’ll likely be Nebraska without all the old titles to fall back on.
We can talk crap about Franklin all we want, but his resume at Penn State is very similar to Frank Broyles here at Arkansas. A lot of wins, a few mediocre seasons mixed in, and sometimes had an issue with winning the big one.
I’d take Franklin here, now. He won 24 games in three seasons at Vandy. He got Penn State built back up into a respectable program after they were drug through the mud nationally and void of much talent.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 9:26 pm to boogiewoogie1978
You know they’re about to go into a serious hole for the next decade right?
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:46 am to boogiewoogie1978
We don’t have a serious AD.
Then every Big10 school has a massive alumni base. They are basically degree mills.
Then every Big10 school has a massive alumni base. They are basically degree mills.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:47 am to Clark14
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Maybe they aren’t very smart though having to pay a coach 50 million to leave. Florida is in a similar situation.
So is Kentucky. And they are all hoping for the mitigation clause.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 12:48 am to Hawgeye
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and sometimes had an issue with winning the big one.
4-20 vs top 25 teams says it’s more than a little issue.
That’s worse than Pittman in 50/50 games
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I’d take Franklin here, now. He won 24 games in three seasons at Vandy. He got Penn State built back up into a respectable program after they were drug through the mud nationally and void of much talent.
In the east. When the only up school was South Carolina under spurrier. It was after Urban had left. Pinkle. Dooley or Butch, joker Phillips at KY, Richt coasting..
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Posted on 10/13/25 at 6:59 am to FayetteNAM
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4-20 vs top 25 teams says it’s more than a little issue. That’s worse than Pittman in 50/50 games
That’s his record against top 10 teams. He is 17-26 vs. ranked teams. So he is 13-6 against teams ranked 11-25.
As a reference…Sark at Texas is 21-33, Venables is 4-7, Drink is 7-15, Kiffin is 12-24, Rhule is 2-23, Lashlee is 3-5, Cristobal is 10-18, and Coach Prime is 1-7. All of those are records against the top 25.
So if you say Franklin has issues…then there aren’t many coaches out there who don’t.
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In the east. When the only up school was South Carolina under spurrier. It was after Urban had left. Pinkle. Dooley or Butch, joker Phillips at KY, Richt coasting..
It’s Vanderbilt. He won 18 games over his last two years. If you forgot, it took a miracle for a Bobby Petrino coached Hogs team to escape with a 3 point win against him.
Those two 9 win seasons are the most Vanderbilt has won in a season in its entire history.
Why are you trying to downplay what he’s done?
Arkansas football has been in the absolute dumpster since the 2011 season…in what universe should our fanbase throw their nose in the air when speaking about a coach that’s won nearly 70% of his games, holds the record for most wins in a season at Penn State and Vanderbilt, has won a P4 conference title, is 2-1 in the CFP, has been to 7 NY6 level bowls, and has won 128 games in 15 seasons.
This post was edited on 10/13/25 at 7:08 am
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:07 am to Hawgeye
“Drug through the mud nationally” is an interesting way to describe a multiple live boy rape scandal that their legendary coach and entire administration knew about and played part in covering up.
“Franklin won 24 games in 3 years at Vandy””
Did everyone seriously forget the gigantic and incredibly awful rape scandal that happened under his watch and he more than likely also took part in trying to cover up?
JFC, kill me if we hire that transition wearing lenses loser.
“Franklin won 24 games in 3 years at Vandy””
Did everyone seriously forget the gigantic and incredibly awful rape scandal that happened under his watch and he more than likely also took part in trying to cover up?
JFC, kill me if we hire that transition wearing lenses loser.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:14 am to STLhog
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“Drug through the mud nationally” is an interesting way to describe a multiple live boy rape scandal that their legendary coach and entire administration knew about and played part in covering up.
You’re missing the point…The point was he had to completely rebuild the Oenn State program. Players had left. The previous coach bolted for the NFL. He had a total rebuild job at what could likely be described at that time, as nearly impossible. He took a job and chance not many coaches would’ve taken.
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Did everyone seriously forget the gigantic and incredibly awful rape scandal that happened under his watch and he more than likely also took part in trying to cover up? JFC, kill me if we hire that transition wearing lenses loser.
And he was also cleared of any cover up with that case.
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While a BuzzFeed report in 2013 claimed that Franklin had encouraged a player to delete video evidence, Franklin denied the allegation. A Nashville deputy district attorney confirmed that there was no evidence Franklin was involved in a cover-up.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:21 am to Hawgeye
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Why are you trying to downplay what he’s done?
Because everyone is acting like football hasn’t changed in 13 years, and he hasn’t put up 13 years more of data, that isn’t good at a blue blood with all the resources at their disposal.
If you aren’t trying to land on the moon, then there was no reason to fire Pittman. Set sail for mediocrity and that’s what you get.
Posted on 10/13/25 at 7:23 am to STLhog
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“Drug through the mud nationally” is an interesting way to describe a multiple live boy rape scandal that their legendary coach and entire administration knew about and played part in covering up.
So you don’t buy the new documentary that Sandusky couldn’t have raped all those boys because he can’t get boners? And he didn’t want everyone to know that so he’d much rather have everyone believe he was a kid diddler.
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