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re: *No Update, Too Much crap to deal with, Ohh Ex OC Briles is still awesome, Good Feral?

Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:40 am to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 11:40 am to
It hasn't helped or hurt Arkansas yet but I don't see how it would benefit middle tier schools like Arkansas.

It sure isn't going to hurt schools like Bama when they can get rid of junk they don't want and let the middle or lower tier schools take that problem from them. If they so happen to be thin at certain positions then no need to worry they have more money than they can count and use it to cherry pick from other SEC schools like Arkansas or Ole Miss as examples.

You want to get better players? Sure but be ready to spend a lot and I mean a lot from getting poached by better programs.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:00 pm to
Agree to disagree

I lean more bullish on the portal, you seem more bearish. Only time will tell which is right.
Posted by Tanny Bogus
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:18 pm to
With all the discussion about Kiero Small, Briles’ 20-20 offense and our shitty OL play, I wonder how much playing without a fullback has impacted our offense, especially in short yardage situations. Is it something Pittman is used to doing or is he maybe a little out of his comfort zone?
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 12:46 pm to
I was just saying yesterday that I miss having a FB on the roster. What would it hurt to bring a walk on in to play that role extremely situationally?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:00 pm to
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I wonder how much playing without a fullback has impacted our offense
we had a fullback on just about all short yardage situations under Bielema and still struggled. Tennessee never uses a fullback and didn’t have any problems scoring this season. I don’t think us not having a fullback is the reason we can’t score.

An H back pretty much fills the role of the traditional fullback in the spread offense anyway
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:01 pm
Posted by Cornelius
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:22 pm to
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It hasn't helped or hurt Arkansas yet but I don't see how it would benefit middle tier schools like Arkansas.

I would argue that Arkansas has gained more from the portal than it has lost when it comes to actual production on the field. Where Arkansas has been hurt is from a depth standpoint when contributors such as Brooks, Foucha, and Mike Woods transfer out.

I really think lowering scholarship numbers would help solve part of the problem.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:23 pm to
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I know. He's awful. That's why this entire board is posting about how he will be a head coach in the next five minutes



Every situation is different. He may be the best in the country wherever he goes, if he goes, but he hasn't been that great for us. Briles isn't solely to blame for all of it, but most of it for sure. Before you crow too much about him going HC, you might want to consider the number just off the top of your head of head coaches that were straight arse. Pittman just took over for one.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 1:29 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:29 pm to
If Arkansas wants to compete at the highest level then they need to stop woe is me attitude it just isn't always about winning crap. Well yes it is then why keep score?

Saban at Bama is looking at his twilight years, they are headed for decline but he is too stubborn to give it up unlike Bryant. Losing makes them desperate and that is when they will use money to try and raid programs. This is where Arkansas needs to pony up the money or get left in the dust. If they can handle themselves from being raided then they can flip the switch and raid teams like Bama when they are down. The question is can Arkansas do it or will they as usual let it slip away?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:29 pm to
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but most of it for sure.
agree to disagree. Our only offensive issue this year was red zone and short yardage offense. I think the majority of that you can lay at the feet of the o line coach.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:30 pm to
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The question is can Arkansas do it or will they as usual let it slip away?


We can and will for basketball, but not for football.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:36 pm to
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agree to disagree. Our only offensive issue this year was red zone and short yardage offense. I think the majority of that you can lay at the feet of the o line coach.


We'll have to agree to disagree about that as well. Stalled drives, hanging the defense out to dry is a major issue as well. Whether it be from a wtf play call, procedure penalty which never stopped all year, or utterly, woefully predictable playcalling, we had entirely too many entire halves of games where the offense shite the bed, taking a wrecking ball to an already depleted and demoralized defense.
Posted by FayetteNAM
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:44 pm to
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I was just saying yesterday that I miss having a FB on the roster. What would it hurt to bring a walk on in to play that role extremely situationally?


Why waste a scholarship for few situations, when you can train a tight end to do that job?
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14658 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:50 pm to
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Why waste a scholarship for few situations, when you can train a tight end to do that job?


Tight ends are for sneaky sneaky goal line dives from the 3 yard line and little else. What are you thinking?
Posted by ArHog
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 1:59 pm to
Arkansas has the right coach in place for basketball that changed that of a loser culture to a winning culture.

I like Sam as a person but he won't be able to change the loser culture in football. He just doesn't the it factor. This next football hire will tell everyone if Arkansas wants to be a serious contender. If they screw it up which will be no surprise then it will be a waste of time and money going to these games or watching on them on TV losing to Memphis State as normal.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 2:01 pm
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:10 pm to
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I was just saying yesterday that I miss having a FB on the roster. What would it hurt to bring a walk on in to play that role extremely situationally?


Bert will kick your arse if you don’t have fullback.

But seriously, we lack a jumbo package. The goal line TD that Ole Miss scored in the Egg Bowl where they threw it to their defensive tackle running a FB flat route was one of the more beautiful plays I’ve seen.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18129 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:12 pm to
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Stalled drives, hanging the defense out to dry is a major issue as well. Whether it be from a wtf play call, procedure penalty which never stopped all year, or utterly, woefully predictable playcalling, we had entirely too many entire halves of games where the offense shite the bed, taking a wrecking ball to an already depleted and demoralized defense.
I mean every team in football has stalled drives. Asking the offense to score everytime they got the ball because the defense is arse isn’t really being fair to the offense. We moved the ball fine. There’s a reason we were too 25 in yards per game. It was punching it into the end zone and getting stuffed on 3rd/4th and short that killed the offense.
Posted by troyt37
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:15 pm to
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This next football hire will tell everyone if Arkansas wants to be a serious contender. If they screw it up which will be no surprise then it will be a waste of time and money going to these games or watching on them on TV losing to Memphis State as normal.


And I will give HY the benefit of the doubt on coaching hires, until shown otherwise. Hiring Muss was a masterstroke, even though I tend to believe it was going to be Sampson had he not handcuffed us to his son.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23980 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:18 pm to
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Arkansas has the right coach in place for basketball that changed that of a loser culture to a winning culture.

I like Sam as a person but he won't be able to change the loser culture in football. He just doesn't the it factor. This next football hire will tell everyone if Arkansas wants to be a serious contender. If they screw it up which will be no surprise then it will be a waste of time and money going to these games or watching on them on TV losing to Memphis State as normal.



there is an awful lot of hyperbole here and a lot of whatthefrick.

I can't remember us losing to Memphis State... or it being normal. And we have already proven we don't want to be a serious contender with the Chad, Bert, Smile, and Pitt hires.

There is nothing left to prove in that sense.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/30/22 at 2:25 pm to
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It was punching it into the end zone and getting stuffed on 3rd/4th and short that killed the offense.


Imagine Army if their 3rd and short offense got stuffed.

Actually you don't have to, they were 45% this year and they have a 5-6 record to show for it. What was our percentage on 3rd down? 45%. If you are going to run a pound it away offense you need to be rock solid on 3rd down.
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