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re: Negatives / Positives on BP as HC

Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:31 pm to
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You're willing to say look what he's done when in reality he didn't do anything.
In the very time frame you criticize him for, he brought a program their first conference title in 30 years. A program that hadn't had a winning record at all in 11 years. I'd say that's doing something.

Improving a team's offense by 76 spots in less than one year of offensive install with the exact same QB I'd say is doing something.

Going from what we had under Enos to what we have now I'd definitely say is doing something. The only good part about this team is the part he had direct control over the last two years. Do you think that's coincidence?

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To pretend that its all flowers and rainbows is just false.
I don't know about any flowers or rainbows, but I do know that acting like he's some lost old man in a world that has passed him by doesn't stand up to any amount of scrutiny.

Regardless, your mindset is clear. I'll just say thank God you don't have any position of power within the department.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65276 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Bobby has no other options and will take the job for cheap with no stipulations. It’s 100% the cheap route. You are being gas lit if you don’t understand that.
If he's cheap, great. More money to go elsewhere. I don't have to he gas lit to want to keep the only coach on staff that has had an SEC caliber product on the field the last two years.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31072 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:37 pm to
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If you expect to score on every drive, there's not a single coach on this planet that will make you happy. We're 4th in the country in moving the ball and 17th in scoring points. Complaining about the offense is asinine.

With the 3rd toughest schedule in the country. He's hanging 30-40+ on top 10 teams and no trash points.

The second half woes have been largely due to the O-line getting tired. Poor conditioning and or lack of depth. They did better against TAMU. I suspect as the year goes on, BP will whip them into shape. Unfortunately, that is supposed to be done in the off season. Blame that on your former HC and S&C. But everything I've heard was Sam just didn't demand much.
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:39 pm to
He went 5-5 (played UCA twice in the regular season) and 8-4 then 5-6 with a team full of FBS players playing in the FCS!

It's not rocket science here he had the players and still got out coached every season in the FCS.

We had the exact same thing with KB before Enos...and folks ran him out of town
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Roy Suggs
Old Milo
Member since Oct 2017
222 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:46 pm to
Please enlighten us on who you think we will get as the next head coach. All things considered from our inept athletic department and NIL situation.

Who do you think we have a realistic chance at hiring?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31072 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:48 pm to
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We had the exact same thing with KB before Enos...and folks ran him out of town

Negative. BP's offenses are much more consistent than either of theirs.
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:56 pm to
Well we've had idiots in charge of that department for over 30 years. So there is no telling what depth they can go to and pick a dud.


Realistically we have a shot at a number of guys and word is there is no shortage of interest. But if you want names then

Dillingham
Lashlee
Sumrall
Golesh
Chesney
Mullen
Silverfield
E Morris
Fleck
T Helton
Kinne and
Just about any coordinator out there!
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:59 pm to
Lol no they aren't can't score as much and disappear way too much. You can easily look it up on the internet if you don't remember
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8950 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:00 pm to
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You realize A&M went from 101st in scoring offense to 25th in one offseason after they hired Petrino, right?


My feelings mean more than your words and stats to back it up.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65276 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:07 pm to
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a team full of FBS players playing in the FCS!
You keep saying this so I looked it up. You're exaggerating this even more than I assumed.

He had a grand total of 13 transfers across all three years and the "FBS" talent you're talking about came from schools like Central Michigan, Coastal Carolina, and New Mexico State with flameouts from schools like Houston and Virginia Tech. I compared them with other competitive teams in the conference and they're identical. His recruiting classes were almost entirely two star recruits or less with the bulk of them being zero stars. He never had the highest rated class in the conference the entire time he was there.

So there goes that argument.
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:10 pm to
It really doesn't when the other teams had none...but you do you
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65276 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:13 pm to
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It really doesn't when the other teams had none.
Again, I compared the transfer classes with other teams in the conference and they do the exact same thing. 3-4 transfers from low tier FBS/FCS schools.

I'll reiterate, he never had the highest rated class in the conference. NDSU signed more 3 stars in one class than Bobby did at Missouri State the entire time he was there.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 2:15 pm
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8950 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:14 pm to
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Dillingham isn’t leaving Arizona
Lashlee isn’t leaving SMU for under $10 and he isn’t worth it
Sumrall will go to a bigger school
Golesh offense isn’t as good as Bobby
Chesney who?
Mullen seems he doesn’t want SEC smoke, might end up back at Miss State though
Silverfield might just benefit from being at Memphis
E Morris who?
Fleck row that boat right the frick out of here
T Helton who?
Kinne
and Just about any coordinator out there!



At this point just say I don’t like Bobby as a person. I’d respect you more.
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:15 pm to
Show your work then
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:17 pm to
I don't care about anything other than what is best for the program and 20-25 isn't what's best for the program.

My currency is wins and losses and for the past 8 years Bobby has more losses than wins..its that simple
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:18 pm to
14-17 as an OC

20-25 as a HC

Only stats needed
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65276 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:24 pm to
It's really not that hard to use 247 bro.





This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Roy Suggs
Old Milo
Member since Oct 2017
222 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:35 pm to
You pretty much nailed it. I've said a couple of times that I'd be all in on Dillingham but that isn't gonna happen. If there is any smoke on him coming here it is just him playing us.

Fleck mentioned is just crazy talk.
Posted by HAWGWALLOP
Rogers
Member since Feb 2016
170 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:36 pm to
No its not but 247 is down today...

I ask because I too have looked at it...

Humm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
65276 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:38 pm to
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No its not but 247 is down today...
Seems fine now.
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