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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:11 pm to
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:11 pm to
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Ladies and Gents, one of the reasons our world is in the fine shape it is in.

Dude, my family will always come first. Over occupation, sports, finances, they are the greatest investment I can make in my life. The investment of my time, efforts, teaching, admonishing, love, money... anything.

Never should ones job or work come before our wives, kids...

Cool. If you can do that and stay employed that means that at the very least you are competent at your job. I am glad you can focus ample time on your family.

But to focus on your dumbshit first statement..... hard working men who are forced to be away from their family is NOT the reason the world is in it's current shape.

Deadbeat dads who stop and pop a woman but refuse to raise and/or provide for the child are the problem.

Dads who bust their arse in the military or at factory jobs or working shite shifts as an emergency personnel or doctors etc. are not the problem.

My father came from a garbage background. His dad left him when he was 4 and his mother married a drunk abusive POS when he was 6. In between the beatings he was responsible for raising his two sisters. He dropped out of high school and took a job at a saw mill when he was 16. Because of this he never was able to obtain a great job like you seem to think everyone has.
He busted his arse working multiple shifts at different factories so my mom could quit her job and raise me and my brother. He'd try and make it to as many sporting events and school related things as possible but he'd end up falling asleep in the stands because he was worn out.

Not once did I hate my father or resent him working hard for me. He taught me the value of hard work and because of him i earned my way into The University of Arkansas and became the first college graduate in my family.

So yeah...... dad's who sacrifice for their family is not the problem. And to see a man who makes millions of dollars (Morris) take such a lackadaisical - who gives shite attitude - while others sacrifice is pretty disgusting.

But I digress - this wouldn't a problem if he did his job at a competent level.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 6:12 pm
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:33 pm to
I apologize to Hogwarts for derailing this thread but I'll add one more thing.

Bielema lost me when the stories of him falling asleep during film sessions, skipping out on recruiting to go to Vegas, and his drunk escapades came out.

Arkansas - no matter the sport - is not an easy place to win. You can not be half assed as a coach here. Almost every coach who has failed or had a mishap has done so due to not being fully invested.

Bielema - rather drink and go to Vegas
Petrino - let a mistress derail his tenure here
Nutt - text messages and Code Reds
Ford - wishing he was back on the farm
Holtz - political campaign BS

Hatfield was probably the only coach who despite being successful and completely dedicated to being a Razorback was forced to moved on to another job.

Look at our most successful coaches we have had - their primary focus was winning and winning here. John McDonnell built our track program into a dominant force. Norm DeBriyn took a passed over program who shared a field with the band, built it into a winner, and passed it on to Dave Van Horn. DVH is a Razorback and fully dedicated to this team. Moved his family with him every step of the way.

Even our women's coaches know that you have to be fully invested. Coach Deifel is building our softball program and I've seen her at multiple Razorback games outside of softball with her son on her hip. She has embraced this community and program.

TLDR - you have to be fully invested to win here (or to at least be competent) and I believe that Musselman and his family have shown that they are more invested than Morris.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 6:40 pm
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7517 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:00 pm to
I agree with everything you said there but I don’t think spending a few hours on Friday night at a game has anything to do with our performance on Saturdays. The entire rest of the coaching staff is out at games recruiting and by then the gameplan should already have been installed.

I’d rather him be at a game and see possible future potential recruits than out partying or something like Kiffin probably does
Posted by VagueMessage
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Jun 2013
3907 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:07 pm to
I think there are a couple of jobs out there that could outprice us if they really wanted to. Duke, Kentucky, and Kansas, for sure. Honestly, it's been so long since UCLA has been relevant and a basketball machine, that I'm not entirely sure we wouldn't beat them at that game.

So, disregarding two or three college jobs, it's the NBA or we keep him. That's assuming he turns out to be a force, that is. I wanted Chris Beard, but I've been extremely for this hire since the second it was announced. I think he's going to do very well.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19601 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:55 pm to
I'm glad we have him,given time I think we can be back to where we expect to be.

This will be a rough year though.We lack big players and we'll have to rely on defense and perimeter shooting.

I see what he wants to do,so hopefully our "fans"won't want to fire him too before he gets his players.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
22805 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:32 pm to
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Cool. If you can do that and stay employed that means that at the very least you are competent at your job. I am glad you can focus ample time on your family. But to focus on your dumb shite first statement..... hard working men who are forced to be away from their family is NOT the reason the world is in it's current shape. Deadbeat dads who stop and pop a woman but refuse to raise and/or provide for the child are the problem. Dads who bust their arse in the military or at factory jobs or working shite shifts as an emergency personnel or doctors etc. are not the problem. My father came from a garbage background. His dad left him when he was 4 and his mother married a drunk abusive POS when he was 6. In between the beatings he was responsible for raising his two sisters. He dropped out of high school and took a job at a saw mill when he was 16. Because of this he never was able to obtain a great job like you seem to think everyone has. He busted his arse working multiple shifts at different factories so my mom could quit her job and raise me and my brother. He'd try and make it to as many sporting events and school related things as possible but he'd end up falling asleep in the stands because he was worn out. Not once did I hate my father or resent him working hard for me. He taught me the value of hard work and because of him i earned my way into The University of Arkansas and became the first college graduate in my family. So yeah...... dad's who sacrifice for their family is not the problem. And to see a man who makes millions of dollars (Morris) take such a lackadaisical - who gives shite attitude - while others sacrifice is pretty disgusting. But I digress - this wouldn't a problem if he did his job at a competent level.


Since we were formerly speaking specifically of CCM, you have now changed the narrative a bit. Wealthy men, (CCM) who take everything for their company, job, coaching, etal… and don't show an ounce of care for their family is a major problem. We have loads of evidence for this in our society.

Now... with what you said, absolutely correct as well. I said "One of the reasons" not the completeness of it all.

I have a great amount of respect for your Dad by what you said and was raised much the same way. My dad worked his rear off, and found time in simple ways to be there for his kids. We dug worms and went fishing at the creek, etc.

Fathers who don't take the responsibility of being a Dad is the majority of the issue regardless of financial well being IMHO.

thanks for sharing....
Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10407 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:36 pm to
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Morris: I'd rather spend time in Texas watching my son then gameplanning.


The game planning was done way before the Friday evenings he went to see his son play ball.
It's a convenient dig at him because we lose so many games, but I'd be more upset with him if he DIDN'T watch his son every chance he got.
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