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re: Mattingly says AD hopes to be in place by Jan. 1
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:56 pm to Jon Ham
Posted on 11/17/17 at 10:56 pm to Jon Ham
How long does the job have to be 'advertised' before they can officially fill it? I'm sure they have to go through the motions as a formality.
I don't think they would have fired Jeff so swiftly and at this point in time without a successor pretty much ready to go. I'd hate to think they're that stupid, but people have fooled me before.
Unless the smoke about the money is true and gave them no choice but to act now.
I don't think they would have fired Jeff so swiftly and at this point in time without a successor pretty much ready to go. I'd hate to think they're that stupid, but people have fooled me before.
Unless the smoke about the money is true and gave them no choice but to act now.
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Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:12 pm to WonderWartHawg
I believe it has to be listed for 10 days.
Posted on 11/17/17 at 11:12 pm to Jack Ruby
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By not calling a special session, this tells us ...A.) they had not yet decided on Long, or B.) They did not want to call a special session and set off all the alarm whistles that shite was about to go Down.
'A' seems to be the correct answer from everything I heard before/directly after the meeting. I legitimately believe the things said in that meeting determined Long's fate, and thus no plan for a new AD was underway even in the backchannels at that time. It is my understanding that Long could've saved his job somehow, or at least they wanted to think that heading into the session. Not sure if it went horribly wrong or if they realized after the fact that there was no fixing the damage already done, even IF Long had done his best to mend fences.
This wasn't some conspiracy cooked up behind the scenes with money changing hands and people earning "hush money" to remove JL and insert their man, Long was legitimately fired for job performance issues after whatever transpired in that meeting. Im also under the assumption that the search firm is a result of the firing not being predetermined and is the truth, as I haven't heard otherwise to this point.
This post was edited on 11/17/17 at 11:19 pm
Posted on 11/18/17 at 12:25 am to RazorBroncs
Let me begin by saying that there were several on the BOT wanting Long gone for the last 2-3 years... And he was on a short leash with this ez project. Cost overruns, fudging donation funds, etc.
It was also known (from what I have heard) that he was gone prior to the meeting by those on the BOT...
and, I have been told that we will have our man within 14 days, give or take a couple. BUt they may wait to announce it a bit as they are also already reaching out to coaching candidates.
Why reach out to coaches prior to hiring an AD? To make sure the coaches they want will work with the AD they are considering. Remember the story of Long taking funds given for the baseball program and placing them elsewhere...
Well, there was some heat over this as well.
what I hear may mean jack crap, but I choose to believe that the entire BOT are not idiotic enough to wait until Jan 1st.. Good Lord No!
It was also known (from what I have heard) that he was gone prior to the meeting by those on the BOT...
and, I have been told that we will have our man within 14 days, give or take a couple. BUt they may wait to announce it a bit as they are also already reaching out to coaching candidates.
Why reach out to coaches prior to hiring an AD? To make sure the coaches they want will work with the AD they are considering. Remember the story of Long taking funds given for the baseball program and placing them elsewhere...
Well, there was some heat over this as well.
what I hear may mean jack crap, but I choose to believe that the entire BOT are not idiotic enough to wait until Jan 1st.. Good Lord No!
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:08 am to Jack Ruby
We'll have hired someone way before then. And Bielema is gonna be gone in 1-2 weeks, not after Jan 1st.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 6:22 am to Woopigsooie20
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And Bielema is gonna be gone in 1-2 weeks, not after Jan 1st.
Agreed.
Mattingly was simply stirring the pot for calls when he said Bert may not be fired until after bowl season. That would be coaching search suicide, as the coaching carousel largely takes place between Thanksgiving weekend and tbe second week of December, and it’s why Tennessee was up shite creek when Kiffin left when he did.
You don’t let your AD hire a coach and then fire him shortly thereafter because you’ve mislead your new coach. Rightly or wrongly, they’re likely going to sell input on AD selection to the coaching candidate(s) unless we have a new AD in place before December.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 6:37 am to RazorBroncs
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'A' seems to be the correct answer from everything I heard before/directly after the meeting
This is what I understand and stated as much Pryor to the firing. Also said that I believed a person was going to have a big influence on the room.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 1:16 pm to Pigfeet
Yep, Pryor has had a problem with JL behind the scenes since the beginning of the CBB tenure when they really started pushing to get out of LR/WMS; he's let it be publicly known since the expansion talk really kicked into gear.
I remember reading an article in the DemGaz and talking to friends about Pryor's opposing stance on the expansion and thinking "this dude is just trying to be a killjoy, every real fan wants a bowled-in and upgraded stadium!" Lo and behold, Pryor had already hated JL for years at that point and had questioned every move he made - the stadium could've been proposed to be renamed "David Pryor Razorback Stadium" after the expansion and he still would've hated the idea because it was Long's baby.
For a while it was only Pryor that detested JL and really wanted him gone, that is until the $$$ situations happened with Long moving large chunks of it around and being shady about it. Fan discourse with the football program also started to seep in, and slowly the other BOT members found themselves agreeing with Pryor more and more. Pryor went into the BOT meeting ready to end JL's tenure right then and there, most of the others were still hoping some sort of resolution/agreement could be met by the end, and it must've gone very poorly. They still deliberated after and came to the conclusion we know today.
I remember reading an article in the DemGaz and talking to friends about Pryor's opposing stance on the expansion and thinking "this dude is just trying to be a killjoy, every real fan wants a bowled-in and upgraded stadium!" Lo and behold, Pryor had already hated JL for years at that point and had questioned every move he made - the stadium could've been proposed to be renamed "David Pryor Razorback Stadium" after the expansion and he still would've hated the idea because it was Long's baby.
For a while it was only Pryor that detested JL and really wanted him gone, that is until the $$$ situations happened with Long moving large chunks of it around and being shady about it. Fan discourse with the football program also started to seep in, and slowly the other BOT members found themselves agreeing with Pryor more and more. Pryor went into the BOT meeting ready to end JL's tenure right then and there, most of the others were still hoping some sort of resolution/agreement could be met by the end, and it must've gone very poorly. They still deliberated after and came to the conclusion we know today.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 1:27 pm to RazorBroncs
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Yep, Pryor has had a problem with JL behind the scenes since the beginning of the CBB tenure when they really started pushing to get out of LR/WMS; he's let it be publicly known since the expansion talk really kicked into gear.
I remember reading an article in the DemGaz and talking to friends about Pryor's opposing stance on the expansion and thinking "this dude is just trying to be a killjoy, every real fan wants a bowled-in and upgraded stadium!" Lo and behold, Pryor had already hated JL for years at that point and had questioned every move he made - the stadium could've been proposed to be renamed "David Pryor Razorback Stadium" after the expansion and he still would've hated the idea because it was Long's baby.
For a while it was only Pryor that detested JL and really wanted him gone, that is until the $$$ situations happened with Long moving large chunks of it around and being shady about it. Fan discourse with the football program also started to seep in, and slowly the other BOT members found themselves agreeing with Pryor more and more. Pryor went into the BOT meeting ready to end JL's tenure right then and there, most of the others were still hoping some sort of resolution/agreement could be met by the end, and it must've gone very poorly. They still deliberated after and came to the conclusion we know today.
FYI to the rest of the board: Broncs is not one of my alters
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:01 pm to Feral
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they’re likely going to sell input on AD selection to the coaching candidate(s) unless we have a new AD in place before December.
From me yesterday... "BUt they may wait to announce it a bit as they are also already reaching out to coaching candidates.
Why reach out to coaches prior to hiring an AD? To make sure the coaches they want will work with the AD they are considering. "
Posted on 11/18/17 at 2:03 pm to RazorBroncs
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Pryor went into the BOT meeting ready to end JL's tenure right then and there, most of the others were still hoping some sort of resolution/agreement could be met by the end, and it must've gone very poorly. They still deliberated after and came to the conclusion we know today.
Disagree, from what I wrote yesterday ... "It was also known (from what I have heard) that he was gone prior to the meeting by those on the BOT..."
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:00 pm to Razorback Reverend
I have heard FWIW that the board has a coach in mind (rumor is Gus) and will hire an AD with him in place. The reasoning is no AD wants to come in and hire an AD Day 1. Then their whole tenure will be banked on this new coach they had to rush to hire.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:15 pm to RocktownHog52
It’s arse backwards to hire a new HC without an AD already in place to make the hire.
Of course that is what our GOBN will do so they control the power and the AD is only a puppet.
Of course that is what our GOBN will do so they control the power and the AD is only a puppet.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 9:25 pm to RazorHawg
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It’s arse backwards to hire a new HC without an AD already in place to make the hire.
Of course that is what our GOBN will do so they control the power and the AD is only a puppet.
YUP
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:02 pm to ArHog
Julie will hire whoever the TGOB tells her to hire. She is their puppet. The end game in all of this is getting the HC they want.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:08 pm to beebefootballfan
And bringing the WMS games back in a big way with a marquee matchup every year.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:13 pm to Razorback Reverend
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Disagree, from what I wrote yesterday ... "It was also known (from what I have heard) that he was gone prior to the meeting by those on the BOT..."
Not how I was told it went, but it could have been my contact had a concern as to where a few others would fall in line.
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:18 pm to Pigfeet
I cant say who told me this, but I was told that one specific BOT had called others and started the lynch mob prior to the meeting, there was a reason Long was left outside the meeting by himself with a phone. After the meeting, "We will call you, stand by" 
I haven't a clue if it is true, but if so... Savage!
I haven't a clue if it is true, but if so... Savage!
Posted on 11/18/17 at 10:24 pm to Razorback Reverend
I can’t confirm or deny if communications were done outside of the board setting (against the rules/law), but yes, Long crossed the wrong GOB a while back and the trap was set.
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