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Jon Ham
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Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Arkansas ranked #1 in offense efficiency in 2015 and #11 in defense efficiency in 2014.

In 2015, our losses included a loss to Matt Campbell’s Toledo, Patrick Mahomes’ Texas Tech, Kyle Allen’s A&M in OT, Dak Prescott’s MSU, and @ future national champ Bama by just 13 points.

Bert was supposed to come from a defensive background. If he would have upheld his end of the deal and fielded us a decent defense after 2014 he maybe could have kept Pittman and Enos for at least a couple more years and done something special like he was paid to do. Bert wasn’t able to field a good defense with his players and wasn’t able to keep the great assistants we were able to buy him.

We were close to something, but Bert failed as we all know.
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Stonehog
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
You’re right, we pulled the trigger too quick on him. Some people foolishly thought 4-8 was the absolute worst we could do. Firing Bielema will be a 10 year setback because of what Chad did and the difficulty we’re going to have recruiting for the foreseeable future.


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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Firing Bert wasn't the mistake. Not replacing him with Norvell will prove to be the big one.


Beached Tusky
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
frick that.

We never should have hired that fat piece of shite.
Wisconsin sure didn’t miss him.

This mindset is 90% of the reason we’re here. The money doesn’t have to worry about high expectations.


Jon Ham
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Nah, we were right to fire him. He didn’t build enough equity to go 1-7 in conference in his 5th season. He was supposed to be the type of coach to build a team and have them ready to compete at year 5 and he completely failed.


LittleRockHog501
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
He had five years and never had a break through year. We were beyond patient and after blowing back to back leads he seems to have given up and we rightfully lost confidence


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Beached Tusky
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Because he was hired by someone more concerned about getting his arse kissed than winning.


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Stonehog
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
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This mindset is 90% of the reason we’re here. The money doesn’t have to worry about high expectations.


So what should our expectations be? Conference championships? No one should expect that, we've never done it in this league. We've won the division three times and one of those was because Bama was on probation. If we include that, we could reasonably expect to win the division once every 10 years. If anyone is expecting more than that, please explain why because the math doesn't agree with you. There is no reason to expect anything more, even Petrino never won the division and he's the best coach we've had in decades.


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Stonehog
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
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Firing Bert wasn't the mistake.


I think it was, especially the way it went down. The perception was that we fired him on the field right after the Mizzou game. That's part of the reason why it was so hard to find a coach to take the job, and we had to settle for 14-22 Chad.

People seem to think if we had just offered Norvell the job he would have come here. How many guys have we offered that simply said no? What leads people to think not getting Norvell was entirely up to us?


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admiralduckwad
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
There's a reason Enos got picked up by Alabama.

Saban had respect for what we were doing even though we somehow couldn't find linemen to do it


Beached Tusky
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
...and there’s a reason FatBert was picked up by no one, and ended up as an errand boy for Belicheck.

If you think firing Bert was a mistake... you’re the epitome of the stereotype label the rest of the country gives Arkansas.



Stonehog
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
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...and there’s a reason FatBert was picked up by no one, and ended up as an errand boy for Belicheck.


So he could collect the buyout money.


Beached Tusky
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Then he isn’t in the business to compete then, is he.

My point stands.


BadPiggy
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
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So he could collect the buyout money.


Which shows EXACTLY the problem with Bert and why he's a shitty HC.


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Stonehog
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Collecting $12 million to not work is just human nature, most people would do the same thing if they had the chance. Doesn't say anything about his coaching ability.


Beached Tusky
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
Unless you actually had a passion for the work. You clearly don’t get it.

I work with millionaires who don’t have to work. They do it because they’re driven.

It’s that fricking simple. Quit trying to rationalize Bert, because you look pathetic doing it.


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hilltophog
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
The problem was and will always be firing and hiring a coach without an AD in place.


gthog61
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
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Some people foolishly thought 4-8 was the absolute worst we could do.


I wonder if they think 2-10 is the worst we could do.

UNCOMMON works both ways.


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BadPiggy
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
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Collecting $12 million to not work is just human nature, most people would do the same thing if they had the chance. Doesn't say anything about his coaching ability.


And all those people would be shitty head coaches, just like Bert. IT's a basic fundamental attitude. Seems you have the same attitude.
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Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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re: Looking back, we were close to something great with Bert
You do your best work on the OT. Don't turn your talents on us.

But I'll bite, just in case some kid out there reading this actually believes what you posted: Bert 100% needed to be canned. The problem was hiring an unqualified goober just because he was butt buddies with Jerry.
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