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Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:18 pm
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2714 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:18 pm
Anyone find it hilarious that we have struggled to reach the end zone on kickoffs for 2-3 years and our former punter sam irwin hill, is handling kickoffs for the cowboys right now and putting them into the end zone?
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
40594 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:21 pm to
Bert DGAF about special teams

Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18435 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:32 pm to
Our backup QB may end up punting for us. Nothing about Arkansasn special teams surprises me.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3275 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 8:44 pm to
Y'all member when Zack Hocker would kick it out the end zone every time and nail 45 yd FGs with ease? Or Joe Adams returning punts for TDs? I member.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:21 pm to
if a dude is too lazy to get on a fricking treadmill for 45 mins a day when your still twice as big as your 9 month pregnant wife, what the frick makes you think he's going to p9ut in the work to get special teams right


Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43951 posts
Posted on 8/12/17 at 10:39 pm to
quote:


Bert DGAF about special teams



Analytics would say your better of to kick to the 1 or 2 yard line every time, you have a better chance at a turn over, or bettering field position, versus giving them the ball at the 25.

Arkansas is one of a handful of teams who spends money to have analytics available each week for each game.

Its the opposite of the "3 things happen when you pass the ball and 2 of them are not good" logic.
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
18881 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 12:29 am to
Well we aren't kicking them high and to the 2. And we don't cover well so obviously his analytics isn't working troll better next time
Posted by admiralduckwad
Member since Dec 2012
2714 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 7:41 am to
quote:

if a dude is too lazy to get on a fricking treadmill for 45 mins a day when your still twice as big as your 9 month pregnant wife, what the frick makes you think he's going to p9ut in the work to get special teams right



Isn't he missing an acl? Treadmill doesn't seem to be an option for him
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43951 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 8:55 am to
What is the troll?

Everything is factual, nothing was presented about the execution...
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
27180 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:47 am to
Its hard to deny that special teams have not been very special under Bert and co. and its cost us in some games.

Whether it is the prep work they get during game week or just that his recruits in the kicking game, some of who were highly ranked, have fizzled once they reached campus special teams has been a liability for us.

With, I should say, Sam Irwin Hill being a notable exception. We need to recruit Australia more heavily it would appear.
Posted by vengeanceofrain
depends
Member since Jun 2013
12465 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:12 am to
He ate his ACL?
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Arkansas is one of a handful of teams who spends money to have analytics available each week for each game.


Wonder how much worse our teams would have been without it? Do we only pay them for first half analysis?
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Isn't he missing an acl? Treadmill doesn't seem to be an option for him



Eating less would be a nice start.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
27180 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 11:18 am to
Actually I should amend what I said before. Toby Baker did fine as a punter for us. So our punting has been solid, but our FGs and kickoffs have been, for the most part, miserable.
Posted by Devil_doge
DFW
Member since Sep 2016
2499 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 6:56 pm to
quote:

So our punting has been solid, but our FGs and kickoffs have been, for the most part, miserable.


I'd pay to have Sam Irwin Hill and Hocker back on our roster.

Member when we had Tejada as our only FG kicker? Those were interesting times.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15849 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Joe Adams returning punts for TDs


Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
27180 posts
Posted on 8/14/17 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Member when we had Tejada as our only FG kicker? Those were interesting times.


Indeed. Sometimes a lot more so then I would have cared for.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 8:42 am to
quote:

Analytics would say your better of to kick to the 1 or 2 yard line every time, you have a better chance at a turn over, or bettering field position, versus giving them the ball at the 25.

Yep. Most teams are trying to kick high and just to the goal line to play for field position. It's worse now that teams start at the 25.

I'd still rather just have touchbacks though. To me the risk of a big return or an injury is much bigger than saving a few yards here and there.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12536 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 10:06 am to
quote:

Everything is factual, nothing was presented about the execution...



Analytics are useless if you don't have the tools. Bert should know if we have the tools.
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