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Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by arkiebrian
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:49 pm
So Jack Crowe actually had the decency to quit after the Citadel loss? I've always remembered this dark day resulting in his firing. Anybody recall it more clearly?

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Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38145 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
Jack Crowe didn't quit, JFB told him to GTFO.

Long and short of the story.

RIP JFB
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:07 pm to
That's how I remember it.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Jack Crowe actually had the decency to quit after the Citadel loss?


Posted by WonderWartHawg
Member since Dec 2010
10751 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:10 pm to
Crowe really was a good OC. Head coach? Not so much. He wasn't ready, he should never have taken the job. Hindsight is 20-20.
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:29 pm to
That's what the article said so thought I'd pose it to the experts here on SEC Rant. I recall he was fired.

So shoot me.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12679 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:30 pm to
He should've never been offered the job in the first place when Hatfield left for Clemson.

Broyles should've abided by Barnhill's edict (and one he deeply ascribed to) and shied away away from hiring or promoting an assistant to the head coaching job.

One wonders how differently our SEC transitionlake would've gone if we'd replaced Hatfield with an experienced coach instead of a career coordinator who was learning on the job.

ETA -- I've never seen it discussed, but wonder why didn't we consider Barry Switzer after Hatfield left? He stepped down from OU after the 1988 season, and Hatfield departed a year later after the 1989 season. Switzer was out of football until being hired as coach of the Cowboys in 1994.
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 2:38 pm
Posted by arkiebrian
NWA
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

Switzer

Wasn't he surrounded by scandal when he left the Sooners?
Posted by Pigfeet
Ark Mods are Fascists
Member since Mar 2010
19783 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 2:48 pm to
Too much heat from the NCAA
This post was edited on 10/1/17 at 2:49 pm
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24016 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Wasn't he surrounded by scandal when he left the Sooners?


There was a lot of smoke and a few flames. We weren't going in that direction at all...
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
43520 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 6:36 pm to
quote:


Broyles should've abided by Barnhill's edict (and one he deeply ascribed to) and shied away away from hiring or promoting an assistant to the head coaching job.


Technically Crowe had previous HC experience, after Crowe Frank restricted this to only D1-A (now FBS) experience. This was why Nutt left Murray State to go to Boise he "gained" D-1 experience as they were transitioning to the FBS level, allegedly.

The story I always heard was Crowe was fired as soon as the clock struck 0:00 on the field, before he could make it back to the locker room.
Posted by Person of interest
The Hill
Member since Jan 2014
1786 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:44 pm to
Crowe had the most low budget coaches show ever. Would draw the plays out on a dry erase board.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38145 posts
Posted on 10/1/17 at 7:59 pm to
Crowe didn't make 4mil/year like fat arse


Back in the day you could hire and fire at will.


Nowadays AD's put a price on he coaches head, it's wrong on every level
Posted by Notherdamnhog
Huntsville, Al
Member since Aug 2010
6201 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 8:48 am to
quote:

Crowe really was a good OC.
Crowe made is reputation at Auburn with these players in the backfield.....and this is just the 1984 team:

Pat Washington
Bo Jackson
Reggie Ware
Tommie Agee
Collis Campbell

He may have been a good OC but who won't with that kind of talent to work with.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26739 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:09 am to
He was a solid OC here at Arkansas as well. He just turned out to be in way over his head as Arkansas head coach.

The problem is that the Hatfield/Broyles feud had gotten so toxic that Hatfield bolted for Clemson without warning.

It caught Broyles flatfooted and he wound up sticking Crowe in there much like John L. Smith got the emergency coaching job when Petrino had his little accident. And like John L. it was a complete disaster.

Eerie parallels between now and then. A successful HC leaves under painful circumstances late and are replaced by someone way over their head. Followed by years of poor to mediocre play.
Posted by Litigator
Hog Jaw, Arkansas
Member since Oct 2013
8090 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 10:28 am to
Other parallels are scary too-Crowe lost to the Citadel, Smith to ULM, & Bert to Toledo.
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26739 posts
Posted on 10/2/17 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Other parallels are scary too-Crowe lost to the Citadel, Smith to ULM, & Bert to Toledo.




What is really scary is... Crowe was the emergency coach and got shite canned early. The long term replacement was Danny Ford, a coach with a big time pedigree... who had a losing record for us and seemed disinterested and lazy the entire time he was here.

Anyone getting Deja Vu here?
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