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Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:32 am to Latarian
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:32 am to Latarian
Yes, I am mad.. because stupid motherfrickers keep getting us coaches like Chad Morris because they're obsessed with Gus Malzahn. Get over him, move on. He's done. Let Arkansas get a real coach and then never talk about that guy ever again. He's done more to frick up Arkansas football than anyone in the last 15 years.
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Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:33 am to Killean
So who’s your solution?
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:33 am to Latarian
I swear, we have some type of Stockholm Syndrome going on here.
1. His offensive system isn't nearly as offensive as it once was, while he is becoming more offensive to the Auburn faithful. He just hasn't continued to innovate and college defenses are catching on.
2. Without his Defense, he is already gone... He is the offensive genius, what does this tell us?
3. He has used us time and time again. Like the dude coming back to the fat girl on a very late Sat. night because other plans never panned out.
4. He would absolutely split the fan base like no other. Divisive as can be.
5. He would never be able to recruit the players to Arkansas that he can to Auburn. And what good has it done him there with such talent?
6. Kirby is catching up to him, and he is ready to bail.. we are his safety boat. Losing to Bama, GA, and now with Merlins at Florida... yeah!
7. He encouraged us to hire Chad... His Buddy.. hmmm
8. His wife is an absolute Psycho
9. Cross Church... ohhh boy!
10. I have been around him personally, He is an absolute douche.
11. Because, now hold on please... We Can Do Better, and I absolutely believe this. Am I insane? Perhaps, but so is anyone else going back to the same drug dealer expecting a better product at a reduced price...
If we are going to settle for Auburns ex... then at least show how pathetic we have become and get Briles.. lol
1. His offensive system isn't nearly as offensive as it once was, while he is becoming more offensive to the Auburn faithful. He just hasn't continued to innovate and college defenses are catching on.
2. Without his Defense, he is already gone... He is the offensive genius, what does this tell us?
3. He has used us time and time again. Like the dude coming back to the fat girl on a very late Sat. night because other plans never panned out.
4. He would absolutely split the fan base like no other. Divisive as can be.
5. He would never be able to recruit the players to Arkansas that he can to Auburn. And what good has it done him there with such talent?
6. Kirby is catching up to him, and he is ready to bail.. we are his safety boat. Losing to Bama, GA, and now with Merlins at Florida... yeah!
7. He encouraged us to hire Chad... His Buddy.. hmmm
8. His wife is an absolute Psycho
9. Cross Church... ohhh boy!
10. I have been around him personally, He is an absolute douche.
11. Because, now hold on please... We Can Do Better, and I absolutely believe this. Am I insane? Perhaps, but so is anyone else going back to the same drug dealer expecting a better product at a reduced price...
If we are going to settle for Auburns ex... then at least show how pathetic we have become and get Briles.. lol
This post was edited on 11/13/19 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:34 am to Woopigsooie20
My top 3 would be Norvell, Clark and Drinkwitz.
I think Leach is too old, but I'd settle for him as a bridge coach to the next hire.
Everyone keeps talking about bringing in an "established" coach, but there are no guarantees and the ceiling for an established coach is lower. We're more likely to end up with Danny Ford 2.0.
I think Leach is too old, but I'd settle for him as a bridge coach to the next hire.
Everyone keeps talking about bringing in an "established" coach, but there are no guarantees and the ceiling for an established coach is lower. We're more likely to end up with Danny Ford 2.0.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:35 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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I think kJ was made to run his offense
If you want to build around KJ then go get Briles. He coached a kid to a Heisman and #2 overall draft pick.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:35 am to Latarian
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There’s a difference between being an a-hole and covering up sexual abuse but that’s just my opinion
frick Briles imo
Sure there is but the line about "Win fricking ballgames" is normally echoed by the people who don't care what a coach has done. I'm glad you see you are not one of those though.
And FTR I don't think Gus is some massive POS. I just think there is enough evidence of his coaching to not support his hire.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:35 am to Razorback Reverend
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11. Because, now hold on please... We Can Do Better
Please post the resume of a legit candidate that is better.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:37 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
Everything else aside, Art Briles would be 64 before he ever coached an Arkansas game.
Bobby Petrino also coached a QB to a Heisman and you don't see us scrambling to get him back here.
Bobby Petrino also coached a QB to a Heisman and you don't see us scrambling to get him back here.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:39 am to Latarian
Out of all of my word vomit... you chose 11... gee thanks!
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:39 am to rockiee
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And FTR I don't think Gus is some massive POS. I just think there is enough evidence of his coaching to not support his hire.
From a W/L perspective Gus is one of the safest options out there. We aren’t going from toilet to contenders any time soon. We need a coach to build us back to respectibility first. Gus can do that. Norvell, Clark ceilings might be higher but they are still risks, way more than Gus. That’s my point.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:40 am to Razorback Reverend
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. you chose 11...
That’s because I like data. So hook me up.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:40 am to Latarian
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1. Blame our incompetent leadership for that. If we’re stupid enough to play ball and make him richer that’s our own damn fault.
Awww.. come on now. You think our administration would have lifted our skirt to Malzahn, if he or his agent didn't tell folks he had a little chub for us?
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2. Right because Mike Leach and Mike Norvell face SEC level defenses in their respective leagues right? You can’t have it both ways.
Have it both ways? Do you not think that Memphis and Washington State would kick the shite out of us right now? Do you not think that Norvell and Leach would both be able to go out and get better players here, than their respective schools? How about Gus? it's you that want it both ways here. You posit that Gus's wins at Auburn translate to wins here, but we all know we aren't going to get the kind of talent here, that the Auburn boosters buy for him there. Hell, we self sanction and report to the NCAA when one of our boosters pay 20 something players $200 extra.
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3. He has literally whipped our arse for years, how is that good for us? We used to actually compete well with auburn before Gus got there
That's disingenuous, at best. Damn near everyone has whipped our arse for years now. That doesn't make Gus special.
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4. Winning cures that.
See #2.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:41 am to Killean
Every candidate has their drawbacks, even Gus, people get butthurt over Gus though like it's 2008 still.
Norvell didn't build his program and has went 8-5 50% of the time at Memphis.
Clark has zero ties outside Alabama and has gotten destroyed the last two weeks and gets a win boost by a horrible schedule.
Drinkwitz.. Just no. Just thriving off Scott Satterfields work at App St. Call him in a few years if he keeps it up.
See they all have drawbacks. We're not gonna hit a grand slam here. We're looking for someone to come in and make us competitive in the SEC. Gus would do that and recruit his arse off.
Norvell didn't build his program and has went 8-5 50% of the time at Memphis.
Clark has zero ties outside Alabama and has gotten destroyed the last two weeks and gets a win boost by a horrible schedule.
Drinkwitz.. Just no. Just thriving off Scott Satterfields work at App St. Call him in a few years if he keeps it up.
See they all have drawbacks. We're not gonna hit a grand slam here. We're looking for someone to come in and make us competitive in the SEC. Gus would do that and recruit his arse off.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:41 am to Killean
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Bobby Petrino also coached a QB to a Heisman and you don't see us scrambling to get him back here.
Did you miss how his reunion trip in Louisville went? That told me all I need to know.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:43 am to Killean
Briles was a good coach. Checks the boxes for all of those that are still in love with the Texas idea. He would win games.
I'm not sold on anybody yet, but if I were making the decision and I had to make an offer right now....I call Norvell. He seems to relate good to players while recruiting and, as someone posted yesterday, he has a great eye for assistant coaches. This is likely our last chance to go get him.
I'm not sold on anybody yet, but if I were making the decision and I had to make an offer right now....I call Norvell. He seems to relate good to players while recruiting and, as someone posted yesterday, he has a great eye for assistant coaches. This is likely our last chance to go get him.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:43 am to Latarian
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We aren’t going from toilet to contenders any time soon. We need a coach to build us back to respectibility first. Gus can do that. Norvell, Clark ceilings might be higher but they are still risks, way more than Gus. That’s my point.
My man
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:44 am to Latarian
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From a W/L perspective Gus is one of the safest options out there. We aren’t going from toilet to contenders any time soon. We need a coach to build us back to respectibility first. Gus can do that. Norvell
I can agree if he has a great staff, which he might be able to do that. I don't feel comfortable with having to rely on a Gus offense without great support around him. Especially with the fact that he will have less talent to work with in general.
I can at least feel good about Norvell leading the offense, even if the staff isn't great. We have seen his teams lose alot of coaches and he still has success. I just like Clark because he literally build a program from the dead so I think that fits nicely here.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:48 am to Maytheporkbewithyou
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This is likely our last chance to go get him
He’s 38 years old
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:50 am to Woopigsooie20
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Norvell didn't build his program
Eh, this was more of a legit criticism during the last search. 8 wins has been his floor at Memphis which is impressive and he is 4 years removed from the old coach and he might have his best record this year. This is his team now, he isn't riding off of Fuente's coattails anymore.
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See they all have drawbacks. We're not gonna hit a grand slam here
Don't disagree here. I don't think any of them are grand slams. I just think taking everything into consideration Norvell is the best hire for what information we have as of right now. I'm not as anti-Gus as others.
Posted on 11/13/19 at 11:52 am to Latarian
And he has had major personal issues.. He isn't gonna be offered a huge job anytime soon. Another reason he's a huge risk.
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