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re: I'm not going full meltdown mode, but lets be honest here....

Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by Porky
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:36 pm to
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excluding the one play where Sprinkle got knocked down, did we attempt any more throws to a TE?

I don't know. I was so fed up by the end of the 3rd quarter that I couldn't stand to watch. This isn't a talent problem. And it has nothing to do with any past coaches or recruiting. It's a coaching problem, starting with Chaney. He's awful.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:36 pm to
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Kane Whitehurst looked pretty fricking good against us. He had one catch. His second one of the season. Real world beater right there.


Our entire receiving corps only had 15 more yrds and 3 more catches than Kane, but he had 1 more TD.

ETA-2 of catches by Kiero. Recievers-2 catches.
This post was edited on 10/12/13 at 3:37 pm
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:42 pm to
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Again, stop defending them.



I'll stop when you stop bitching. Walk the block and come back.

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I can't rag on a defense that was on the field for over 40 fricking minutes....there just isn't much they can do better by starting a game by forcing a fg on their first drive....only to have the offense give them the ball inside the damn 15 yd line...then the offensive play calling goes to goofy misdirection plays, bad pass calls, no TE involvement.....basically full fricking retard...



Have you not noticed a trend of the defense being on the field a lot this year? You truly believe this is all coaching and play calling on the offense? Especially with a few BCS level coaches and former head coaches on staff? I hope you don't.
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:46 pm to
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I agree with you SunHog, this team is devoid of talent.



Let's all hope he can recruit like we think he can.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:47 pm to
I can bitch all I want.....if you don't like it, tote your arse....


Have you not noticed this team get worse each and every week?

I've got enough of a football background to know poor coaching when I see it....I've seen it on the offensive side of the ball all year and Chaney has made lame arse excuses about it all year.....Tennessee fans were glad to see him leave....he isn't very good....he is a terrible play caller and throws in the towel way too early...

If you don't understand my point, you don't understand X's and O's very well....

Our offensive players are not put in a position to win....
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:49 pm to
Are you going to defend the fake punt next and tell me how it wasn't the coaching staffs fault?

Everyone and their daddy knew that was coming.....
Posted by SunHog
Illinois
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 3:56 pm to
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I can bitch all I want.....if you don't like it, tote your arse....



Yet, you want me to stop defending them? Stop sounding like a brat.

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Have you not noticed this team get worse each and every week?



The team is quieting on the coaching staff as a bowl game won't happen. It's up to the coaching staff to correct this going forward and pick up a W. They are getting paid to do this and I believe it will happen even they know we don't have talent.

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I've got enough of a football background to know poor coaching when I see it....


Don't give us the background crap. My late grandfather played running back for Arkansas and also coached for a college in California for many years. I also played for a long time myself. Drop that garbage. You have an opinion just like everyone else on here as do I. This is probably coming from you playing on the offensive side of the ball yourself personally I assume.

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Tennessee fans were glad to see him leave....he isn't very good....he is a terrible play caller and throws in the towel way too early...


Then veto it Coach B. There has gotta be a reason he isn't if it's this clear to you and not us.

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Our offensive players are not put in a position to win....



We don't have the talent to win regardless of the play calling. You put up smoke screens, goofy plays and misdirection when devoid of talent in this era. This isn't the wishbone days.

You really are worked up today. Go poke the wife.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:03 pm to
We don't have the players to run the offense Chaney had at Tennessee, but we also don't have the players to run the offense Bielema had at Wisconsin.

And of course Tennessee fans were glad to see him leave, it's the Rant. Tennessee had the best offense in the league last year besides A&M, but they also had the 2nd best offensive line in the SEC and Tyler Bray.

We don't have the horses, simple as that.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:03 pm to
It seems like you render only excuses.

There is enough talent on this team to win 6 games, not lose to South Carlina by 45 at home......this is a fact.

We are not Kentucky.

Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:08 pm to
How many of our starters would you call talented? Or more talented than the opposition?
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:11 pm to
All are talented or they wouldn't be playing at this level.

Our line, TEs, RBs are good enough to win 6 games.

I'll again ask....Can you defend the offensive coaching this year? Can you defend such a stupid fake punt call today? Can you defend excuses again today that Allen just isn't healed, thus the reason for offense sputtering.....

I can't and I call BS

This staff has made excuses all year....Chaney has been the main one...
Posted by UltimateHog
Thailand
Member since Dec 2011
68768 posts
Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:12 pm to
The talent we have was brought here to run a shotgun pass heavy Petrino offense with no defense.

Few players are the exception and as true freshman aren't going to change outcomes against top 10-15 teams.

The change of philosophy is as key as the talent.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:17 pm to
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Our line, TEs, RBs are good enough to win 6 games.


Our OFFENSIVE line?! Are you fricking kidding me? Our O line has been the single weakest position on this team for the past 3 years. 2011 and 2012 we gave up like 7 sacks a game. We have 2 true freshmen starting, can you recall another time that's happened?

If you think our O line is good enough to win 6 games then you're delusional. We have Travis Swanson and no one else.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:26 pm to
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I got murdered on this board for my thread last week when I openly criticized Chaney.
You didn't get murdered. People disagreed with you and explained why. You can climb down off the cross now.
Posted by wmr
North of Dickson, South of Herman's
Member since Mar 2009
32518 posts
Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:28 pm to
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This team has gotten worse.


Yep. Regression. We fricking suck, and its hard to watch.

Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:35 pm to
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Talent has nothing to do with this.....
lol wut

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Collins averages 6.9 ypc today....he only gets 10 carries?
He had 40 yards on 9 carries and 29 yards on one carry in the 4th quarter.

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Williams averages 10 ypc today...he only gets 6 carries?
He had 16 yards on 5 carries and 45 yards on one carry in the 4th quarter.

I agree that we didn't run the ball when we should have, and we didn't get the ball to our best players, but there is a lot more going on that is making us lose games. I don't particularly love the playcalling, especially that possession right after Allen's interception where we threw three straight times and punted.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:37 pm to
How can you truly criticize a line that has given up so few sacks and we have a nice average per rush?

We have the best flicking Oline coach in the nation, yet our OC wants to throw the got damned ball up 7-3 when Collins had been getting good chunks.....what's that? Williams is in?

He can't even manage the personel worth a shite
Posted by Hog on the Hill
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:40 pm to
I agree that Collins should be getting the ball more. He is clearly better than Williams.
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:40 pm to
Sure there is a lot going on.....you throw incomplete passes, the clock stops....you do this three times and our defense will be on the field 40 minutes in a game and our offense will only have the ball for 16 minutes....

No, that's not a lie or a mis-type.....we had the ball for 16 fricking minutes today.....that's horrible....is there a word worse than horrible? If so, insert here _______!
Posted by Hawgeye
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Posted on 10/12/13 at 4:41 pm to
Yes he is....and Williams is very gifted in space.....but why we can't call screen passes on the reg is beyond me...

It's not rocket surgery folks....it's pretty cut and dry
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