re: I don’t understand all the love for Kiffin

If Kiffin was just some random dude with the same resume as what he has, nobody would want him.

Our fanbase is stupid.

Kiffin is also the ONLY coach to take a team ranked #1 in the pre-season, and wind up un-ranked at the end of the year.

I remember that season well and I remember before the year started I thought that ranking was ridiculous because they were down like 15 scholarships or some shite. Yeah, they still had great talent, but when you are that understaffed you are going to lose games. Depth becomes a huge concern.

He is playing for a conference title this weekend. He has spent years since the USC thing learning under Saban. He is still considered a premier offensive mind in the entire game of football.

The only concern is whether or not he'll burn down the program with his behavior. I don't think he will. He will be a success here. IMO.

Also, isn't Mike Leach just barely bowl eligible this year? Not saying I couldn't get behind Leach, but he has a problem with consistency. I feel like Leach would be similar to Houston Nutt and I think we could do better.

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he has a problem with consistency

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That is actually his biggest strength. He is incredibly consistent at being average to above average. In 20 years of coaching he has made a bowl game 18 times.

He’s 12-2 against fcs teams all time in 18 years of head coaching. Both came in the early years at wazzu if I’m not mistaken who won 3 or. 4 games total the last 3 years before he took over. That program was dead (not dying) before leach like the mad scientist he is raised them from the dead. We aren’t getting leach so it doesn’t matter, and I think Kiffin could do well so I’m definitely not butt hurt because I think he’s a solid hire but anyone who says leach doesn’t know how to coach football and run a program is either A. Ignorant of leach’s accomplishments. B. Has no understanding of what good football coaching looks like. Or C. Has a personal bias against leach and doesn’t want him coaching because they simply don’t like him. I’m fine with a and c because people who have problem A only need to be educated and people with opinion C is fine because everyone is entitled to their own personal opinion. It’s the people who fall under category B that annoy the piss out of me. I like basketball a lot but I know that’s not something I know with nuance because I never played it at a high level so I don’t speak my mind a whole lot when it comes to basketball I mainly sit back and enjoy. More people who don’t know what the frick they’re talking about or watching need to sit back and enjoy the damn game and let other folks worry about the important issues (dale).

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guess it just seems to me that he has a history of losing to inferior teams.

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Well, some of it has been overblown but he is generally coaching at some of the worst teams in their respective conferences.

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Mike Leach (and I'm a fan of his) has lost to FCS opponents.

I'm real damn tired of losing to teams like San Jose State. Or frickin Toledo with our best team in recent years even.

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The year he lost to Portland St. he won 9 games which most would take instantly at this point.

No one should be mad about getting leach.


He is not the best choice. He is in our top 3 though. I do not believe norvell is an option to us. So really our top 3 are probably lane, leach, clark. Though maybe norvell isn't totally out, and would replace clark.

Leach would be #3 to me though. He would win, but when he was gone our team wouldn't be very good for the next coach as he doesnt recruit very well, and most of his cache is in his brain. Very similar to bobby.

I do not think his offense is up to date. It is outdated, and would definitely have a terrible time vs physical defenses. He would beat teams like OM, MS, Mizzou. He would have a tougher go vs auburn/bama/lsu who would have the horses in the secondary to push WRs around/run with them/ and mess up the timing.

He would be a good choice, but the over all health of the program probably wouldn't be good long term. Defense would continue to be an issue.

I agree he would move the ball, but I look at amari cooper under kiffin, and I think he would be smart enough to feed treylon burks just like he did amari.

I just think kiffin would recruit better, and be just as good on offense. I also think he is better defensively, and would definitely bring a better staff.

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Mike Leach is the only reason Wazzu going 6-6 this year is considered a bad year for them

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They actually do have some decent history with Mike Price. They have historically been awful but the 90s and early 2000s were great for them (by their standards) under Price. They had 3 straight 10 win seasons from 2001 to 2003. Granted after that it took them 10 years and Leach to win more than 6 games but they do have a glory period and Mike Leach is not the pinnacle of their program, that was Mike Price.