How did this sorry, low life pos, only get 15 yrs

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hope I run across him if he lives to see parole

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if in fact you do get that opportunity, you should securely tie up mr. floss and make a few phone calls, first. capeesh?

eta: I've been thinking about that pos, hangin' would be too good for him..

Just depends on the situation, I guess.

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Worse than murder? No.

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while I do respect your opinion, I cant agree.
thank God, no personal experience with this act, but have read and heard how this "act" can and does affect victims and their families beyond belief,,,,some even ending in suicide.
is it not as "bad"? I don't know this answer, so I'm not gonna say it's not..

There's probably no point is debating whether rape or murder is worse. They're both pretty fricking bad, way beyond any threshold of understanding by any decent human being. Committing either act places a person among the absolute worst of humankind.

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Do you have kids?

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No. But I know that, as horrible as it sounds, I would rather one of my kids be raped than be murdered.

You can bring someone back from the earth-shattering consequences of rape. And that person can go on to live a great life as a spouse and parent. I've seen it first hand.

Now, had this person been murdered? Nothing. Nothingness. No hope for having a relationship with them at all.

Give me the chance of having a relationship for the rest of my life with one of my future kids over them dying any day of the week.

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No. But I know that, as horrible as it sounds, I would rather one of my kids be raped than be murdered.

You can bring someone back from the earth-shattering consequences of rape. And that person can go on to live a great life as a spouse and parent. I've seen it first hand.

Now, had this person been murdered? Nothing. Nothingness. No hope for having a relationship with them at all.

Give me the chance of having a relationship for the rest of my life with one of my future kids over them dying any day of the week.

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I can agree with this...

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Give me the chance of having a relationship for the rest of my life with one of my future kids over them dying any day of the week.

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i understand that view.

but i also think that rape (and certainly raping a child) is always black and white open and shut no gray area at all.

as far as murder goes, i think sometimes there are gray areas- i'm talking murder in general (not legal terms). there's temporary insanity, there's self defense, there's murdering some guy who hurt (or raped) your child/loved one. i'm not saying is a good idea but i can understand the action in my head whereas i can't/will never understand a sick pedo.

either way, I'd end up in prison. maybe..

Really didn't want this thread to turn into a debate over murder or rape, was just livid after learning about this case and that this bastard only got 15 years.

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Really didn't want this thread to turn into a debate over murder or rape, was just livid after learning about this case and that this bastard only got 15 years.

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I honestly don't understand how someone who repeatedly rapes a young child can get sentenced to such a short amount of time either. That, in & of itself, is a travesty. Shame on the judge who handed down such a light sentence. I assure you, the offending pedophile would not make it from the prison to the vehicle, alive, upon his release had he done that to my child.

Since the murder vs. rape (which is worse?) issue did come up, I'd like to comment on it, briefly. I suggest those who believe young victims of violent rape go on to lead happy, normal lives do a bit of research on that. The vast majority of these victims do not tell anyone what happened to them for years, if ever; therefore, the trauma, shame, and horror manifests itself in drug abuse, criminal activity, all kinds of psychological issues ranging from severe depression to bipolar disorder, and suicide. These victims are robbed of their childhoods, not only physically, but perhaps more traumatically, psychologically & emotionally, and the horrific effects remain with them for the rest of their lives. Unless the victims receive extensive psychiatric counseling (meaning years), it is impossible for them to have "normal" relationships or "normal" lives because of the overwhelming inner turmoil they suffer. They, in effect, get handed a "life sentence" by the disgusting excuse for a human being who violated them.

In my opinion, there are certain crimes that are just as heinous, if not more so, than murder - child rape being at the top of the list. This crime should carry the same punishment as murder since the perpetrator, in actuality, robs and kills any chance these children have of a "normal" life.