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re: For the record, who wants Morris fired/doesn't believe in him?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:03 pm to Stonehog
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:03 pm to Stonehog
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We burned the entire program down for this and now it's looking like a really foolish decision.
WTF? The program was a two year running dumpster fire. I wanted to go a different direction than they went, but Bielema had to go. We were a joke, with no real prospects for improvement. Now we’re a joke, but the possibility exists of us competing in a few years.
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Morons say we shouldn't join the Big 12 because "the money," but we just spent about $35 million to fire Long and Bielema and spent $160 million on a stadium expansion when we should have been downsizing. I think we'll be fine with less money to set on fire.
Money is the least of the reasons no to go back to the Texass 12. Get real. Ask Nebraska, Missouri, or aTm why to stay as far away from Texass as possible, if you don’t know.
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:06 pm to troyt37
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I think Morris is going to be fine. The defense may continue to be slightly atrocious just due to the offense but you can see that his offense is going to put points on the board in a hurry once he’s got his guys.
The fact that we’ve scored 30+ points three times in SEC games this year is pretty incredible with the pile of shite we have to work with on offense.
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It wasn’t Bielema who started Kelley, and rode him and the team into the ground when he proved he couldn’t cut it.
You don’t think Bielema would have started Kelley too after he started him in multiple SEC games last year? I don’t understand people acting like Storey should have been the starter from the beginning after never getting meaningful playing time in a game. Kelley had to lose the job, and he did.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:08 pm to gohogs141
quote:He should have lost the job in practice.
Kelley had to lose the job, and he did.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:20 pm to ocelot4ark
Way too early to objectively make a judgement.
Come back in 3 to 4 years and let's have this discussion.
Come back in 3 to 4 years and let's have this discussion.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:21 pm to troyt37
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The program was a two year running dumpster fire.
One year. And now it's worse.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:59 pm to troyt37
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It wasn’t Bielema who started Kelley, and rode him and the team into the ground when he proved he couldn’t cut it.
Actually he did exactly this last year.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 1:08 pm to hilltophog
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He should have lost the job in practice.
By all accounts cole looks fricking awesome in practice. He has no fear of getting hit, and he has all the tools to sit back and throw to open guys.
In real games, he gets anxiety really bad and makes mistakes.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 1:14 pm to russellvillehog
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Actually he did exactly this last year.
And then Morris repeated the error. We don’t get to see what goes on in practice, but you don’t have to have intimate knowledge of the players to know that Kelley is not particularly smart, and not really even football smart. The only thing he has going for him over Storey is that he can throw it to the moon, which is not a requisite in this offense. If Morris made the job Kelley’s to lose, simply because Bielema did, that’s a problem, isn’t it?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:12 pm to troyt37
Do you guys remember how Ty looked early on?
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:23 pm to WonderWartHawg
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Do you guys remember how Ty looked early on?
Of course. He looked no different early on than Kelley, AA, BA, Tyler Wilson, or just about anyone else you can name, save maybe Mallett and Mustain. Look how much progress Storey has made since he was given a legitimate shot. I’m glad Morris finally did it, but he really didn’t have much of a choice. What I can’t fathom is why it took a complete meltdown for that to happen.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:45 pm to ocelot4ark
I obviously want him fired.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:47 pm to troyt37
quote:I love Storey, but going 5/13 for 36 yards and 2 INT's in your first "official" start would give any coach pause. I can understand why Morris was a bit skittish after that, but obviously going with Storey was the right move going forward.
What I can’t fathom is why it took a complete meltdown for that to happen.
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:50 pm to troyt37
quote:Did you not watch last year?
It wasn’t Bielema who started Kelley, and rode him and the team into the ground when he proved he couldn’t cut it.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:30 pm to Drewbie
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Did you not watch last year?
We’re not talking about last year and Bielema, dude. We’re talking about this year, and Morris. Bielema didn’t make Morris start Kelley, and he didn’t make Morris trot Kelley back out after throwing 4 picks.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:38 pm to troyt37
Morris made Storey the starter after one game. Storey blew chunks and didn't grasp the opportunity while Kelley came out and threw for 100 yards on 9 attempts. That's not on Morris. Everybody wants to throw blame around, and somehow blame Morris for Colorado State, but Morris prepped Storey to be the starter against Colorado State and he responded with an abysmal game. That's on Storey not Morris. If Storey performs even half as well as he has since then, we beat Colorado State. But acting like Morris couldn't make up his mind about Storey to make him look incompetent is disingenuous. He knew after week 1 that Storey earned the spot, gave it to him, and Storey completely imploded in week 2.
Also, your statement was that Bielema didn't trot Kelley out there knowing he wasn't ready and run the team into the ground. That's exactly what he did last year. At least be factual.
Also, your statement was that Bielema didn't trot Kelley out there knowing he wasn't ready and run the team into the ground. That's exactly what he did last year. At least be factual.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 4:03 pm to Drewbie
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Also, your statement was that Bielema didn't trot Kelley out there knowing he wasn't ready and run the team into the ground. That's exactly what he did last year. At least be factual.
I was being factual. Morris did exactly the same thing with Kelley that Bielema did. Fact. If Morris’ expectations for Storey’s first start ever were anything more that what we got, then that’s a problem as well. It’s incredibly common for a an to fall on his face a few times, regardless of how good he is, or how good he will end up being.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 4:13 pm to troyt37
quote:No coach expects 38 yards in 13 attempts with 2 INT's and 0 TD's while the backup comes in and goes 6/9 for 100+ and 2 TD's against Colorado State. Period. That's unacceptable. It also completely validates keeping the QB battle going for another week. The offense was completely dead with Storey in. Kelley was the only reason we even had a hint of a passing attack that game.
If Morris’ expectations for Storey’s first start ever were anything more that what we got, then that’s a problem as well.
quote:False. Austin got hurt and Bielema made Kelley the starter and never looked back, season be damned. Morris has never once been sold on Kelley to the point of taking the QB battle into the season. Storey won the job and Kelley has been in spot duty since week 3, to the point of falling to 3rd on the depth chart behind Noland. To say Morris and Bielema have treated Kelley the same is absurd.
Morris did exactly the same thing with Kelley that Bielema did. Fact.
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 10/28/18 at 4:18 pm to ocelot4ark
I've VERY concerned with the lack of discipline and the early season losses that are on the coach... however, I WAS impressed with the improvement through midseason.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 4:23 pm to hilltophog
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He should have lost the job in practice.
Well in that case Matt Jones never should have played here and Kody Walker should have gotten 20 carries a game since he looked like an all-American in the spring game.
You never really know what you have until the games start. Anyone can look good in practice.
Posted on 10/28/18 at 5:51 pm to Drewbie
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False. Austin got hurt and Bielema made Kelley the starter and never looked back, season be damned. Morris has never once been sold on Kelley to the point of taking the QB battle into the season. Storey won the job and Kelley has been in spot duty since week 3, to the point of falling to 3rd on the depth chart behind Noland. To say Morris and Bielema have treated Kelley the same is absurd.
I must be watching a different Arkansas Razorbacks team. Kelley was the starter for game 1, and game 3. Game 3 is the one where Kelley threw 4 picks and Morris still went with him.
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