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Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:41 am to ArHog
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:41 am to ArHog
Sec road wins haven't t been easy this year for any team. Arkansas hasn't separated themselves but haven't fallen behind the same sec schools they are bring grouped with or teams from other conferences in this group as far as seeding is concerned in regards to the record away from home.
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Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:45 am to DaleDenton
Allbarn and Tennessee are far and away the best road teams.
7-1 and 6-3 respectfully.
Allbarn will shite the bed if they don't win the SEC tourney, IMO
7-1 and 6-3 respectfully.
Allbarn will shite the bed if they don't win the SEC tourney, IMO
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:48 am to Hawgeye
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2-8 doesn't look very pretty either.
It may not look pretty but 2-8 road record and winning our last 3 home games is going to be fine IMO. That would put us at 10-8 in SEC play.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:48 am to ArHog
They are not in the same group.
I was talking more about Kentucky, aggy, Bama, Missouri, and Florida.
Ms states shite noncon schedule doesn't have them in this group or conversation.
I was talking more about Kentucky, aggy, Bama, Missouri, and Florida.
Ms states shite noncon schedule doesn't have them in this group or conversation.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 9:58 am to DaleDenton
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I was talking more about Kentucky, aggy, Bama, Missouri, and Florida.
Got it
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:14 am to DaleDenton
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The pool of teams Arkansas is competing with for seeding do not have stellar road records either.
Road Records to teams around Arkansas according to Bracket Matrix
Houston 5-4
Washington 4-4
Missouri 4-4
Providence 3-5
Alabama 2-5
Texas 3-5
Michigan 3-5
All of them have more than 1 road win. All of the teams listed are on the 10 or 9 seed line.
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The remaining schedule as only OleMiss as a potential RPI killer, it is also the last game on the schedule against a team that will likely not see postseason play.
It is also on the road. A destination point that Arkansas is 1-6 this season. I fully expect Arkansas to lose that game tbh. Historically speaking, Arkansas plays like shite at Ole Miss and this season Arkansas has played like shite on the road.
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So the remaining home games against aggy, Kentucky, and auburn have the potential to boost the rpi tremendously with wins, a loss will do little damage.
If Arkansas goes on the road and loses to RPI 100+ Ole Miss, those wins don't give the boost, unless you are referencing the boost back to where Arkansas is now.
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A loss on the road to Bama or Missouri isn't going to knock them out of the tourney or have a large effect on the big picture
False. It would most certainly be a huge factor when looking at Arkansas' entire body of work over the season.
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Ole miss isn't a "must win or nit" game either.
If Arkansas loses at Ole Miss, it makes the rest of Arkansas' schedule must win. It puts Arkansas 1-7 on the road for the season. Adds a terrible loss to a team with a losing record in league play and overall. Be honest, Arkansas isn't going to win at Alabama or at Missouri, so the Hogs likely finish the season 1-9 in true road games on the season. That WILL NOT get Arkansas in the NCAAt, period.
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Also with the win last night Arkansas is gauranteed to not finish with a losing record.
Very high expectations.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:16 am to Hawgeye
You don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:19 am to DaleDenton
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Sec road wins haven't t been easy this year for any team.
SEC Teams Road Records
Auburn 7-1
Tennessee 6-3
Florida 4-2
Missouri 4-4
South Carolina 4-5
Kentucky 3-4
LSU 3-4
Georgia 3-7
aTm 2-5
Alabama 2-5
State 1-6
Arkansas 1-6
Ole Miss 0-8
Vanderbilt 0-9
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Arkansas hasn't separated themselves but haven't fallen behind the same sec schools they are bring grouped with
Yes they are falling behind. They're tied with Miss State for next to fewest road wins in the league. The group Arkansas is tied with WILL NOT be making the NCAAt from the league.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:20 am to Stonehog
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You don't know what you're talking about.
Sure.
Continue to disregard all the facts that the committee will be looking at this season, when comparing Arkansas to similar teams around them.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:24 am to Hawgeye
You completely disregarded the neutral site records so....
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:30 am to DaleDenton
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You completely disregarded the neutral site records so....
Probably because one neutral site win is in Little Rock, which isn't a neutral site game. Which puts Arkansas 2-1 on the season at neutral site venues. One of those wins is over a terrible UConn club.
I also omitted the other teams neutral site records. If I had included, Arkansas would look just as bad.
Why on earth you are arguing with me about needing more road wins is beyond dumb, even for a MA homer like yourself. You're smarter than that.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:47 am to Hawgeye
If Arkansas gets to 22 wins including the SEC tournament, they're a lock. Safely in with 21. So no, they don't "need more road wins," they just need to get 21 or 22 wins total regardless of where the wins occur.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 10:51 am to Stonehog
Arkansas isn't getting in the NCAAt with a 1-9 road record.
With their projected win at Ole Miss, the RPI forecast is at 41 at seasons end. That plummets into the 50's if Arkansas loses that Ole Miss game.
So yes, Arkansas does need more road wins.
With their projected win at Ole Miss, the RPI forecast is at 41 at seasons end. That plummets into the 50's if Arkansas loses that Ole Miss game.
So yes, Arkansas does need more road wins.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 10:52 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:20 am to Hawgeye
If they win out at home and lose out on the road, their RPI would be 43. That's without the SEC tournament. If they win a game in the tournament it would be top 40.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 11:22 am
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:51 am to Stonehog
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If they win out at home and lose out on the road, their RPI would be 43.
Which I state earlier....losing at Ole Miss sends their RPI plummeting, then the fight to win the home games turns into just trying to get the RPI back close to where it is now.
Either way, if Arkansas finishes the season 1-9 in true road games, they will not make the NCAAt.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 11:56 am to Hawgeye
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Either way, if Arkansas finishes the season 1-9 in true road games, they will not make the NCAAt.
They aren't getting left out with a top 40 RPI, regardless of road record.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:00 pm to Stonehog
CBS prediction show had Arkansas as a 11 seed against 6 seed Miami in Boston
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:01 pm to Hawgeye
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if Arkansas finishes the season 1-9 in true road games, they will not make the NCAAt.
That's just not entirely true tho, cause I guarantee if we beat UK and Auburn they would put us in. Guaranteed. I agree tho a loss to Ole Miss would be really really really detrimental. It would almost make beating UK or AUB a must.
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:04 pm to Hawgeye
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Either way, if Arkansas finishes the season 1-9 in true road games, they will not make the NCAAt.
Talking in absolutes like this is silly. You are totally disregarding the SEC tournament. We don't know what the layout is going to be. You could lose in the final and are still likely to get at least two quality wins.
This post was edited on 2/11/18 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 2/11/18 at 12:41 pm to pioneerbasketball
ESPN has been generous to us this season with projections. Other services not so much. I think we are in as of now, but squarely on the bubble, just by looking at the teams with similar RPIs, resumes, and where they’ve been placed.
For our remaining games, I think going 4-2 will get us in regardless of SECT performance. 3-3 is less certain, but I don’t think we can afford to lose to Ole Miss on the road. The RPI hit might be tough to overcome, since that is one of our strengths on our resume. If we go 2-4, one of those wins will have to be Auburn IMO and another resume boosting win like TAMU and we will need to make a little noise in the tournament.
For our remaining games, I think going 4-2 will get us in regardless of SECT performance. 3-3 is less certain, but I don’t think we can afford to lose to Ole Miss on the road. The RPI hit might be tough to overcome, since that is one of our strengths on our resume. If we go 2-4, one of those wins will have to be Auburn IMO and another resume boosting win like TAMU and we will need to make a little noise in the tournament.
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