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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by russellvillehog
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:34 pm to
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CK similar to Dak.


Dak was barely faster than BA. He was just big, and powered a bunch of short yardage runs in when needed.

I'm am not saying CK is a blazer, but he is for sure big enough to get 2 yards on 3rd and short.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:37 pm to
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You'd rather have Kelly in his first year as a starter than senior Casey Dick?

yes. Kelly has far more talent and playmaking ability than the dicks.


Posted by hilltophog
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:56 pm to
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Dak was barely faster than BA
Yep. Dak ran a 4.79 40 at the combine.

BA ran a 4.84 = .05 slower than Dak

AA ran a 4.81 = .02 slower than Dak

The difference? Offensive scheme and Dak was a big, durable, son-of-a-gun.

Kelley is a big son-of-a-gun ---- we will see if he can learn the offense.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 5:57 pm to
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Kelly has far more talent and playmaking ability than the dicks.


on a serious note, I see complete and utter suckage coming our way for another season. We were what our record showed that we were. The coaching sucked, the talent is the same. The schedules doesn't get much easier, and a new HC with no real experience to acclimate to the SEC.

I see no hope, I want too.. so … somebody tell me I am wrong and give me the reasons please. Because at this point, I will likely sell my tickets for a loss and watch the train wreck continue on my HDTV
Posted by hilltophog
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:00 pm to
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yes. Kelly has far more talent and playmaking ability than the dicks.

People have this revisionist history about Casey Dick's senior year primarily due to the Miracle on Markahm II. Casey was pretty f'n horrible his senior year.

205/357 57.4 completion % for 2586 yards 13 TDs and 14 INTs
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 6:01 pm
Posted by hilltophog
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:02 pm to
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schedules doesn't get much easier
We traded Michigan for Colorado State and draw Vandy at home ===== schedule is the easiest it's been for a while.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:19 pm to
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on a serious note, I see complete and utter suckage coming our way for another season.

it wont ge pretty next year but we can be a 6-6 team.

coaching- should be better. I mean bielema in game decision making was pitiful at best.

talent- bout the same but were better than weve historically been. bielema wasn't a bad recruiter....terrible developer of talent though.

schedule- good as its gonna get without switching conferences.

other teams in conference- ole miss is sanctioned and has the interim guy in charge, LSU downgraded from miles. we should be able to steal two games between these two vandy and Mizzou
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:20 pm to
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People have this revisionist history about Casey Dick's senior year primarily due to the Miracle on Markahm II. Casey was pretty f'n horrible his senior year.


Casey Dick is an interesting constant variable in Arkansas football.

His freshman year he came in to start the "new season" with Nutt as his OC/QB coach.

Played 4 games: 53/99, 53.5% 584 yards 7 TD 4 INT 118.3 QBR

His Sophomore season saw him lose the starting job due to injury while being coached by Alex Woods in Gus's offense.

Played in 10 games 65/132 49.2% 991 yards 9 TD 6 INT 125.7 QBR

Junior Season saw him being coached by Chutes and Ladders David Lee who was his QB Coach/OC.

13 games 150/262 57.3% 1695 yards 18 TD 10 INT 126.6 QBR

So his senior season he is coached by the Petrino brothers, loses his job to Tyler Wilson against Texas before losing his job to his brother, in other words anyone else but him was trying to be used going forward while Mallett redhirted.

That stats use listed in 11 games with a 122.4 QBR.

He was best when coached by David Lee, although no one will admit that.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:22 pm to
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We traded Michigan for Colorado State and draw Vandy at home ===== schedule is the easiest it's been for a while.


Easiest the schedule has been since the early 2000s.

You don't shell out 3.5 Million for the initial contract for an up and comer to take a wait and see approach. There isn't any reason why Arkansas shouldn't make a bowl every year.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:43 pm to
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Casey Dick is an interesting constant variable in Arkansas football.

His freshman year he came in to start the "new season" with Nutt as his OC/QB coach.

Played 4 games: 53/99, 53.5% 584 yards 7 TD 4 INT 118.3 QBR

His Sophomore season saw him lose the starting job due to injury while being coached by Alex Woods in Gus's offense.

Played in 10 games 65/132 49.2% 991 yards 9 TD 6 INT 125.7 QBR

Junior Season saw him being coached by Chutes and Ladders David Lee who was his QB Coach/OC.

13 games 150/262 57.3% 1695 yards 18 TD 10 INT 126.6 QBR

So his senior season he is coached by the Petrino brothers, loses his job to Tyler Wilson against Texas before losing his job to his brother, in other words anyone else but him was trying to be used going forward while Mallett redhirted.

That stats use listed in 11 games with a 122.4 QBR.

He was best when coached by David Lee, although no one will admit that.

holy shite. that's awesome
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:44 pm to
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People have this revisionist history about Casey Dick's senior year primarily due to the Miracle on Markahm II. Casey was pretty f'n horrible his senior year.

205/357 57.4 completion % for 2586 yards 13 TDs and 14 INTs
The only thing that's "horrible" about those numbers are the INT's. Considering he threw for 1600 yards the season prior, Petrino worked a minor miracle with Dick.
This post was edited on 7/9/18 at 6:45 pm
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:58 pm to
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Kelly has far more talent and playmaking ability than the dicks.
You might want to go back and watch what Kelly did when he got playing time.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 6:59 pm to
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The only thing that's "horrible" about those numbers are the INT's. Considering he threw for 1600 yards the season prior, Petrino worked a minor miracle with Dick.



He also attempted 95 more passes.

Here- you can compare the #s yourself.

2007 150/262 57.3 1695 18 TDs/10 INTs
2008 205/357 57.4 2586 13 TDs/14 INTs

I don't think going from 18TDs/10 INTs to throwing more INTS than TDs is a miracle.
Posted by hilltophog
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:01 pm to
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You might want to go back and watch what Kelly did when he got playing time.

It's not the miraculous Dick's ability to throw more INTs than TDs but here are Kelley's stats:

87/151 57.6 1038 yards 8 TDs and 4 INTs
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:02 pm to
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I don't think going from 18TDs/10 INTs to throwing more INTS than TDs is a miracle.
Huge difference in how defenses play you when you pass first to open up the run rather than run 70% of the time. Like you said, he threw 95 more passes and only threw 4 more INT's. Regardless, my whole point was that Dick was serviceable in his senior year for Petrino. Compare how Dick looked to how Kelly looked when he got on the field last year and tell me you'd rather have Kelly in his first year as a starter over senior Casey Dick.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:05 pm to
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Kelly in his first year as a starter over senior Casey Dick.
I would. Hell.... I think Petrino would too. He was trying to start everyone but Casey.

Give Kelley Petrino as a coach and his numbers would embarrass Casey. It would be unfair.
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:11 pm to
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Give Kelley Petrino as a coach and his numbers would embarrass Casey. It would be unfair.
I just don't agree. He was missing people by a mile and has a brain that makes Mallett look like a scholar.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:14 pm to
Kelley has an arm in need of some control. dick would float a screen pass most days and the further he threw the more loft ir got.

under bielema no one ever hit guys in stride. petrino coached his QBs to do it.
Posted by hilltophog
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:15 pm to
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He was missing people by a mile

Looks like he got within a mile on this one:



and this one:



This one as well:



He is tough as well:

Posted by ArHog
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 7/9/18 at 7:17 pm to
Most fans aren't taking in the fact that we're 2 huge injuries away from another 3-4 win season.


Are all the players buying in to Coach Chard's high octane approach to coaching?

It was obvious from what I heard and what little the local MSM sports talking heads were reporting that there were serious problems in the locker room during Bert's tenure.

Time will tell, just ain't drinking the Chard Kool-Aid yet..
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