re: Coaching Search Thread

Pretty sure everyone knows that.

Still he's a WR coach who got the job due to his being able to rah rah his way as the interim. Then he led the charge to the term "clemsoning" being created.

A few years in and things really started to change, they starting getting recruits the normally would, followed by allegations of this being due to the clemson ways of the 80s, had bama naming him Saban's successor, etc.

But that was a long time ago today, your not hiring Calipari who has been successful everywhere he's been, your being Gene Chizik who came out of nowhere, caught lightning in a bottle, lost his coordinators, crash and burned.

Riley has the advantage of having a identity on the offensive side of the ball, you know what you're getting there.

Dabo is like Sam in that he's a "CEO" style coach who's never been a coordinator and has no identity on either side of the ball.

Dabo is an non-lazy version of Houston Nutt. Rah-rah motivation, folksy non-sensical sound bits in front of a camera, but would work his arse off on the recruiting front when that is what it took on the recruiting front. He opposed NIL and the portal for the same reason Saban did and retired, the built in advantages, ability to stock pile talent, and absolute control over a team are now gone.

Also not a Riley fan.

He falls into the visor category. Pretty much every coach who wears a visor during games need to be avoided and not considered. They are all self centered assholes who could be looking for a raise and extension just as easily as they are a new job. They all seem to be allergic to accountability for their in game decisions.

This group actually falls below the no headwear group. Most of these guys prove to be likable with the public persona and difficult assholes behind the scenes, but every loves them in the public sphere.

What you want is a coach who wears a ball cap, bit there are two groups within the group.

You have the functionality retarded who backed their way into prime positions, but think they are the reason for the success. These guys handle the media well and are the talkers. Dabo falls into this group with the likes of Les miles.

What you want is the other group, they are not the best in the pressers because they see the media as a waste of time keeping them from reviewing film and planning for the next opponent.

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your being Gene Chizik who came out of nowhere, caught lightning in a bottle, lost his coordinators, crash and burned.

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That might be the worst comparison of all time

He went 6-7 in 2nd season but every other season he’s won at least 9 games, that’ll end this season of course. Gene Chizik went 38-38 in his career.

I believe Clemson has a top 10 NIL iirc. It's just that he won't embrace the portal.

I have an issue with him being a CEO style coach that overly relies on coordinators. It leads to a lack of continuity when coordinators leave and likely drop-offs like we've seen recently.

Yeah when I say NIL... I'm grouping the portal in there with it.
Mainly because trying to fix this mess through HS recruiting will be a minimum 3 year rebuild.
Be Honest... we don't have that kind of patience at this point.... no one does in the portal era.

exactly

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Dabo just straight up does not want to engage in the way recruiting works now. It's not the same.

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Cal did not use the portal before coming here. He had 2 guys transfer into UK during the portal era. Definitely a comparable situation.

Thing is, as had already been said, the money guys will see the same problems we do. They’d have to be convinced he’d change his approach to NIL