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re: CCM and Team not wearing Arkansas Gear until it is earned...

Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:06 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:06 pm to
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if it brings wins



he was 14-22 at SMU and is 2-10 here

but I hope he brings wins too

Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:07 pm to
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you think the players didn't give a shite about being trashed on the radio?
No I don't think kids in 2019 give two shits about what is being said about them on the radio
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 3:08 pm
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7602 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:08 pm to
Shouldn't you want the HC of your team who is recruiting 18 year old kids to be an attention whore? Wouldn't be that fun to play for if he was boring.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5380 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:16 pm to
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he was 14-22 at SMU and is 2-10 here


And if that happens here, he'll be out on his arse and we can bring the Lane Train home Until then, I'm going to hang on to what hope I can.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:17 pm to
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Shouldn't you want the HC of your team who is recruiting 18 year old kids to be an attention whore?


No
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:44 pm to
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Shouldn't you want the HC of your team who is recruiting 18 year old kids to be an attention whore? Wouldn't be that fun to play for if he was boring.

Go look at our most successful coach on campus - Dave Van Horn.

How many tweets does he have? 32

How many people does he follow? 1

He isn't inventing new catchphrases: Uncommonly Bad, Raise The Bar (tab), Fult Tilt Booger, Hammereddown yada yada

No need for reality shows to see what he is cooking. No need for him to drop down from the rafters for a barely top 50 recruiting class (2018 class). None of that needed.

DVH doesn't go out of his way to draw attention. He just wins and recruits based off of those wins. Simple. Win and the rest will follow.
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7602 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 3:54 pm to
We have top 5 facilities and fan support in baseball. We don't in football.

Alabama football doesn't need to do that either. We do have catchphrases posted in the dugout but they aren't in our branding like the football ones or "Fastest 40" are.
Posted by Drewbie
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Member since Jun 2012
62390 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:12 pm to
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We have top 5 facilities and fan support in baseball. We don't in football.
Exactly. DVH doesn't have to do all that much because our program sells itself. It doesn't work like that in football. Arkansas has to find ways to make an impression. The people complaining are the same people that will complain regardless. He signs the most 4 stars Arkansas has ever had in one class and people want to criticize his methods. The goalposts have slowly moved all offseason. First it too many skill players on offense, then it was not enough OL, then it was not enough LBs, then it was no QB, now it's "yeah but it's a schtick". He could win 8 games next year and they'd bitch that he didn't win 9.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:16 pm to
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We have top 5 facilities and fan support in baseball. We don't in football.

Ha.... our football facilities might not be top 5 but they sure are above the level of needing to be fult tilt booger hashtagged.

Fan support is also there when you win.

I remember the days when they would give away tickets to George Cole Field. I also remember them creating special packages and giveaways to get fans into Baum. They just did away with the family discount and senior citizen discount for baseball this season.

The fans came because of two badass coaches (Norm DeBriyn and Dave Van Horn) built the program from scratch.

We went from playing at the fairgrounds to playing in the greatest college baseball stadium in America because we won. We have our traditions and the team probably has a yearly slogan but the baseball coaches don't rely on dumbass catchphrase or hashtags to get recruits or fans to buy in.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:21 pm to
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Exactly. DVH doesn't have to do all that much because our program sells itself. It doesn't work like that in football. Arkansas has to find ways to make an impression. The people complaining are the same people that will complain regardless. He signs the most 4 stars Arkansas has ever had in one class and people want to criticize his methods. He could win 8 games next year and they'd bitch that he didn't win 9.

I'm not complaining about Morris taking gear away at all. I answered a question. The question is below:

quote:

Shouldn't you want the HC of your team who is recruiting 18 year old kids to be an attention whore? Wouldn't be that fun to play for if he was boring.



Morris' 2nd recruiting class is great. I hope he holds on to Spivey b/c we need another RB - but overall he has done a great job with his 2nd class.

If this is what he feels is needed to get the team motivated then go for it. He will ultimately be judged by his win-loss not his gimmicks.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:22 pm to
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He could win 8 games next year and they'd bitch that he didn't win 9.

horseshite - I'd be happy with 6 wins next season. Morris should be considered coach of the year if he wins 8.
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 4:23 pm
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62390 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:28 pm to
You know damn well there's a contingency within the fanbase that will never like Morris simply because he's from Texas.
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
18136 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:28 pm to
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He signs the most 4 stars Arkansas has ever had in one class and people want to criticize his methods.


And zero 5 stars.

Where are the 5 stars?
Posted by STLhog
Nashville, TN
Member since Jan 2015
18136 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:29 pm to
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within the fanbase that will never like Morris simply because he's a nerdy bug eyed tool named "chad"


FIFY
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
62390 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:30 pm to
Exhibit A ^
Posted by gohogs141
Fayetteville
Member since Jun 2011
7602 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:31 pm to
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two badass coaches (Norm DeBriyn and Dave Van Horn) built the program from scratch.

the baseball coaches don't rely on dumbass catchphrase or hashtags to get recruits or fans to buy in.



You're comparing baseball recruits from a coach who was here 50 years ago when social media didn't exist, to football recruits in 2019. Nearly everything Morris says he took word-for-word from Dabo.

Did you think this was dumb too? LINK /
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:33 pm to
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You know damn well there's a contingency within the fanbase that will never like Morris simply because he's from Texas.

I don't like that he is an Aggie but he can overcome that real quick by winning.

2-10 is going to warrant a ton of complaints. Whether it be where he is from or his hashtags... people are going to bitch until he wins.

Just like people bitching about Bielema's weight. I'm sure there are people who hate fat people but all that would have faded away if he won here. It sucks but it's true. People look for the low hanging fruit to complain about when they aren't happy.

2-10 is enough for me to complain. But he can and will change attitudes when the number on the left is bigger than the number on the right.
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:34 pm to
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Did you think this was dumb too? LINK /
A video made by the athletic department does not equal red bull spitting, full tilt booger eating, hokey pokey bs from a 2-10 Aggie.

Good god if you can't tell the difference.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
23633 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:36 pm to
From Bret (Bert) to Chad... I don't see the problem.

Folks, use some common sense please. Yes, we need things to bring attention to a program on the rebuild. Recruiting is the lifeblood of this football program and Chad has done better than anyone in a long, long, long damn time. I don't care if he uses catch phrases, relies on his time at Clemson and say's "Look what we laid the foundation for" or that he takes away the better facilities, clothing to make an impression on the kids. What I read and see from the recruits is this.. "They are real cool, fun to be around, like a family but have a plan" Sounds good to me. Lets give the time to the plan. We did with CBP, CBB, and CHN, why not Chad?

as for 5* recruits We have never had as many 4* recruits as we have this year and you are bringing up wanting MOAR~... geeze louize
Posted by hilltophog
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
1619 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 4:37 pm to
Maybe I'm setting the bar too high for Morris by wanting him to be more like DVH but it's tough to see football flounder when they have much more financial support than baseball.

It's awesome having a coach who is a Razorback. A coach who loves The University of Arkansas and who wanted to be a Razorback - despite living in Missouri - since he was a kid. A coach whose family moved with him every step of the way and who helped him pursue his dream of being the Razorback head coach.

Wish we had a version of DVH for football.
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