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re: *2023 ARKANSAS RAZORBACK SEC CHAMPION BASEBALL THREAD - End Season 43-18*
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:13 am to gohogs141
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:13 am to gohogs141
quote:We don't even have 3 anymore.
I just don’t think any college teams are going to have 8 different pitchers who are going to be reliable every outing.
I get staying positive, but it doesn't really hold up when we're ranking towards the bottom of the conference in every pitching statistic comparing against other college bullpens. Yes, college bullpens are fickle and unpredictable, and among those we are one of the worst in this conference. We have serious issues to contend with.
The record is nice and pretty but I think we can all agree this is the most unstable team we've had in quite some time, of course that's aided by the absolute worst combination of injuries we could have possibly had. Literally the best arm in every pitching role plucked away.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 10:23 am
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Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:24 am to STLhog
It’s a combination of factors.
I think we’ve misfired on some recruits in recent years, and we haven’t developed them. Hence why we keep over relying on one arm.
Injuries are the biggest issue. A rotation with Wiggins would’ve allowed us to have Mac in the bullpen (where he should be) and give us more flexibility with Hagen. Frank was our best bullpen arm before going down, and Tygart was our best bullpen arm last year before falling apart due to overuse — his return will hopefully take the pressure off guys like Carter and Adcock.
Morris has been a huge disappointment. A 4th year senior with a ton of game experience (including some crucial high leverage innings in the CWS) and one of the lowest ERA’s on the team last year should be one of our most reliable middle relief arms out of the pen and not flirting with a 10+ ERA this year.
I think we’ve misfired on some recruits in recent years, and we haven’t developed them. Hence why we keep over relying on one arm.
Injuries are the biggest issue. A rotation with Wiggins would’ve allowed us to have Mac in the bullpen (where he should be) and give us more flexibility with Hagen. Frank was our best bullpen arm before going down, and Tygart was our best bullpen arm last year before falling apart due to overuse — his return will hopefully take the pressure off guys like Carter and Adcock.
Morris has been a huge disappointment. A 4th year senior with a ton of game experience (including some crucial high leverage innings in the CWS) and one of the lowest ERA’s on the team last year should be one of our most reliable middle relief arms out of the pen and not flirting with a 10+ ERA this year.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 10:25 am
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:42 am to Feral
My gut feeling is development is lacking more than accurate assessment of recruits. We have guys on staff that have the tools to be good, they just aren't yet. Realistically this whole seasons hinges on the younger guys and guys that currently can't be effective putting it together over the course of the season. Problem is we're already three series into the conference schedule without a whole heck of a lot of progress. As it stands I wouldn't even feel comfortable in a regional setting as a host. A loss in a tournament setting puts this team so far on the back foot that it seems unsalvageable.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:50 am to Feral
I do think lack of development is a key issue. I'm not an expert mind you, but it seems like a lot of pitchers get on campus with a certain skill level... and then never progress. It might be time to look at someone who's better at developing young players because we always seem to get talent.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:50 am to Drewbie
Its not just pitching. Outside of the outfield and DH, the whole infield offensively sucks and the left side defensively sucks. Really bad evaluations on transfers and Jucos.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:52 am to Drewbie
I would’ve liked to have had Heston Tole in the pen.
He had a 3.77 ERA last year (damn near a Cy Young candidate by comparison with this group) and has pitched well in 11 appearances thus far for Texas this year. Who knows why he portaled, but if he was told to move on then it was a misfire by DVH and the staff.
Who knows how Nick Moten or Gabriel Starks would have panned out, but Tole was a quiet loss.
He had a 3.77 ERA last year (damn near a Cy Young candidate by comparison with this group) and has pitched well in 11 appearances thus far for Texas this year. Who knows why he portaled, but if he was told to move on then it was a misfire by DVH and the staff.
Who knows how Nick Moten or Gabriel Starks would have panned out, but Tole was a quiet loss.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:54 am to Pygthagorean Theorem
I just don't even want to waste energy talking about the infield. As far as I'm concerned the best players aren't even playing and it's stupid the team is suffering over DVH's stubbornness.
If we lose Jones to the portal over this crap I'm going to be livid with DVH.
The pitching bothers me much more because I just don't see a way out of the situation at hand other than miraculous late season improvement.
If we lose Jones to the portal over this crap I'm going to be livid with DVH.
quote:I do agree. Although our hit/miss rate with transfers has been stellar so I guess it doesn't bother me as much to miss on a couple, especially knowing we have other options available that seemingly would remedy some of the issues. It's just about getting DVH to pull the plug on the experiment and go with the younger blood.
Really bad evaluations on transfers and Jucos.
The pitching bothers me much more because I just don't see a way out of the situation at hand other than miraculous late season improvement.
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 11:00 am
Posted on 4/2/23 at 10:56 am to Arksulli
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I do think lack of development is a key issue. I'm not an expert mind you, but it seems like a lot of pitchers get on campus with a certain skill level... and then never progress.
Mississippi State fans say that’s the biggest issue with their staff.
They’ve recruited at a damn near elite level but have been one of the worst teams in the conference the last two years.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:05 am to Feral
delta is the king of baseball melts, but certainly seemed to be dead on about ole Lemonade.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:43 am to Drewbie
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If we lose Jones to the portal over this crap I'm going to be livid with DVH.
I will honestly be surprised if he doesn't transfer bc sadly Cali will be back next year. Ain't no team gonna draft Cali's arse after this season.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 11:49 am to Feral
Gabe Starks so far has 2.52 ERA for UT -Arlington with 2/1 K/bb ratio.
Moten went to Crowder CC. I can't find his juco stats though
Moten went to Crowder CC. I can't find his juco stats though
Posted on 4/2/23 at 12:49 pm to Drewbie
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I just don't even want to waste energy talking about the infield. As far as I'm concerned the best players aren't even playing and it's stupid the team is suffering over DVH's stubbornness.
The left side of the infield has been one of the things that have frustrated me the most with DVH this year.
I’ve never taken him for a stubborn coach, but it’s maddening that we keep trotting out Bolton and Cali. Whether it’s a misguided sense of loyalty to upperclassmen (which is unwarranted since they’re transfers) or just plain misreading the situation, he’s got to get it figured out.
He sat Slavens yesterday (deservedly so) who’s done more for this program than anyone on this roster, yet he continues to roll with this left side. If I’m Jones, I’m thinking to myself “what the hell do I have to do?” We’re at the point where we’re having to bunt Bolton just to squeeze anything we can out of his AB’s as well as to avoid a GIDP since she can’t get it out of the infield.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:01 pm to Feral
Coll at SS today but I think that may be because Bolton injured his hand late yesterday.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:01 pm to BallHawg10
Josenberger CF
Stovall 2B
Wegner LF
Bohrofen RF
Cali 3B
Diggs DH
Coll SS
Slavens 1B
Rowland C
Bybee P
Stovall 2B
Wegner LF
Bohrofen RF
Cali 3B
Diggs DH
Coll SS
Slavens 1B
Rowland C
Bybee P
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:07 pm to BallHawg10
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Coll at SS today but I think that may be because Bolton injured his hand late yesterday.
I said this yesterday, but Coll’s just as cold (no pun intended) right now as Bolton is so I’m not sure he’s the answer, either. Of course, just because I said that, I fully expect him to go 3 for 4 with a homer and 3 RBI’s today.
I’d like to see Jones get a shot.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:17 pm to Feral
At this point I'd take the same offensive production if it meant improvement on defense. Jones and Coll can both bat .200 for all I care if it means the left side of the infield isn't so porous.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:18 pm to Feral
Only thing I can think of is - is Jones just not a SS? I can’t remember if he’s played there any this year.
What about Peyton Holt?
What about Peyton Holt?
This post was edited on 4/2/23 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:28 pm to Feral
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Coll’s just as cold (no pun intended) right now as Bolton is so I’m not sure he’s the answer, either.
Got to ride the horses we have. Coll at least hits the ball hard from time to time.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 1:52 pm to BallHawg10
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Only thing I can think of is - is Jones just not a SS? I can’t remember if he’s played there any this year.
Jones has played some SS in midweek games IIRC.
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What about Peyton Holt?
He’s a bigger defensive liability than Bolton.
Posted on 4/2/23 at 3:13 pm to Feral
Can’t believe we’ve gotten this much from Adcock. Bats gotta capitalize.
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