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re: Would you make the defense less advanced?
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:09 pm to Shaft Williams
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:09 pm to Shaft Williams
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We weren't out coached. We were out-bodied to a team with overall more experience. As Quinnen Williams said Clemson didn't do anything they weren't expecting and Lawrence wasn't dropping pinpoint passes. There were 9 new starters on defense and some of those were only playing due to injury. Stop panicking. We are fine and we will make amends for this loss.
I totally agree with your overall premise, but Saban and Co couldn't find the right adjustments defensively in the second half, and our red-zone play-calling was bad.
Yes, we lost mostly because of execution and being young/injured, but there was a bit of out-coaching to go with it.
What's funny is that because of our depth issues on defense, we couldn't even take a person out for a series and coach him up. I would love to have been able to yank Mack Wilson for a series and coach him up on the sidelines, but we couldn't do it. And the same goes for nearly every position on D.
But I'll say it again - offensive red-zone inefficiency lost this game. This game was that shoot-out that we knew could happen, but we didn't hold up our end of that offensive bargain.
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Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:47 pm to prevatt33
The RPO game is all about getting the ball to your guy in space and letting them make plays. Saban has evolved his personnel to counter the RPO but not his schemes as much. He’s still trying to defend a sophisticated pro-style passing attack with exotic coverages, stunts and blitzes. You need more guys just getting to the ball carrier making plays.
This post was edited on 1/9/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/9/19 at 2:51 pm to phil4bama
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Saban has evolved his personnel to counter the RPO but not his schemes as much.
Are you saying that there are coaches who've figured out how to scheme versus the RPO and stop it? I'd love to know who these coaches are. Do tell.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:06 pm to prevatt33
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What's funny is that because of our depth issues on defense, we couldn't even take a person out for a series and coach him up. I would love to have been able to yank Mack Wilson for a series and coach him up on the sidelines, but we couldn't do it. And the same goes for nearly every position on D.
That's kind of a function of the defense maybe being too hard to grasp is it not? I know there were injuries and depth wasn't what it normally is, but there were plyers on the bench who could have come in for a starter to be coached up and catch his breath for a bit
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:10 pm to jchamil
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That's kind of a function of the defense maybe being too hard to grasp is it not?
I don't believe so, no, at least not in game 15. In September, maybe, but not in January.
One of Saban's best weapons all these years is the fact that our defense is on the cutting edge, high-level, and complicated - which makes it very difficult to prepare for while also making it able to stop a wide range of offensive schemes.
You don't throw the baby out with the bath water, and you don't get rid of one of your biggest advantages because you lost one game.
(Especially when that game was lost by the offense.)
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:15 pm to prevatt33
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(Especially when that game was lost by the offense.)
I'd say it was an overall team effort to lose that one. Clemson was 10-15 on third down. That's a textbook way to lose a ball game from a defensive standpoint unless you force multiple turnovers
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:28 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
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I'd say it was an overall team effort to lose that one. Clemson was 10-15 on third down. That's a textbook way to lose a ball game from a defensive standpoint unless you force multiple turnovers
I continue to maintain that this game was that shootout that we all knew was possible, and the offense didn't hold it's end of the bargain.
You can't get first and goal 4 times and come away with 3 points, and then go around blaming the defense.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 3:38 pm to prevatt33
You can blame the defense for giving up 37 points though, all 3 units performed poorly.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:10 pm to jchamil
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You can blame the defense for giving up 37 points though, all 3 units performed poorly.
I totally agree. But our offense had been averaging 40+ and put up 16.
Lots of games can be won when the other team's offense scores 37. Very few games can be won when the offense scores 16, in addition to the fact that since Tua threw a pick-6, the offense's bottom line production was 9 points (16-7).
9 net points and you're blaming the defense for losing the title game?
Posted on 1/9/19 at 4:16 pm to prevatt33
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9 net points and you're blaming the defense for losing the title game?
I'm blaming the entire team and coaching staff not just the defense. The offense scored 16 points and gave up 7 themselves, the defense gave up 37 points, the special teams missed an extra point, kicked a kickoff out of bounds and had an abortion of a fake field goal attempt. It was a failure all a cross the board, it's silly to blame just the offense
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:26 pm to jchamil
Prevatt, the best way I know of to defend the RPO is not with exotic defensive scheming, it’s with your defensive guy being athletic enough to be at the right spot at the right time to make a play. At a certain point, multiple responsibilities of a complicated scheme interferes with that goal.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:36 pm to BamaBoynATL
It's not the arrows...it's the Indian's.
Posted on 1/9/19 at 5:49 pm to jchamil
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I'm blaming the entire team and coaching staff
I agree with this, and I hope the next time Bama reaches the playoffs Saban doesn't allow any lame duck coaches to remain with the team. It was obvious Bama coaches did little or no self-scouting, particularly the offensive coaches.
Posted on 1/10/19 at 5:37 am to Spread
I am not saying throw out what we do. I was saying protect those young corners by sending more than they can block, which I have seen us do.
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