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Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:23 pm to
Posted by saban n bear
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:23 pm to
I don’t know why Galins body is used as an advantage for him when comparing him against other players. A 1.5 rebounding average is a pathetic 1.5 rebounding average regardless of the size of the body
Posted by Crimsontide1713
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 10:32 pm to
Because he provides a big body on defense. If you play 210 lb Rojas at center then centers like Wiley and Perry would score every single time.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 3/29/20 at 11:01 pm to
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Because he provides a big body on defense. If you play 210 lb Rojas at center then centers like Wiley and Perry would score every single time.


You don't have to be 250 to be a good center. Donta Hall was 230 soaking wet as a senior. Rojas isn't 210 either, he is probably pretty close to 225 currently, he was 215 a year ago this time.


Galin is better on defense than Davis or Reese by a good margin though so I don't disagree with you there.
This post was edited on 3/29/20 at 11:17 pm
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 1:03 am to
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Because he provides a big body on defense. If you play 210 lb Rojas at center then centers like Wiley and Perry would score every single time.


Galin slowed down Wiley & Perry? I missed those games.
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 5:59 am to
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We need immediate help right now, so Juco and Grad transfers are the best routes to go imo.


I agree, Fever, and I don’t have a problem going after those guys either. As long as we don’t get stuck in a pattern of scrambling to find our next big in the portal year after year.

I noticed pretty early that Forbes didn’t seem to have a role on the team and wasn’t getting many minutes. About halfway through the year you could tell he wasn’t a good fit and was struggling. I think he will be elsewhere next season if we need his spot.

It concerns me greatly that Herbstreit thinks football won’t happen this year because if football is cancelled, basketball won’t be far behind.
Posted by Harper41
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:55 am to
Donta masked his thin frame with freak athleticism. I’d personally take 10 Dontas over 10 Wileys. Galin is atleast a decent rim protector. Probably the best rim protector on the team Is Juwan Gary and that’s sad. He tore his ACL pinning a JQ shot on the backboard and landing on JQ’s foot. Freak athlete.
Posted by Harper41
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 6:57 am to
He did a great job on Perry the first game, but they figured out quick you can just go around Galin and he’s like walking in wet cement.
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:01 am to
How are the injured guys rehabs coming along?
Posted by Harper41
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:14 am to
Good. Gary and Rojas will be ready for summer workouts
Posted by BigBird09
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 8:56 am to
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It's not like he took 200 3s or something. 56 over the course of a full season is a small sample.


You could say the same thing about most sub-30% 3pt shooters including Retin and Releford their first 2 years who you yourself labeled as awful shooters those years when they shot a vastly superior 3pt%. You could also take out Forbes Auburn game, and his percentages drop to 17%. The fact is he shot 21% from 3 on 2 attempts per game when he was labeled as a sharp-shooter. He was given ample opportunities to have another 2 hot streaks during the last stretch of the season and he responded by going 0 for his last 12. I’m not saying he won’t ever put it together and become a decent shooter, but when you have players that want to come in that will likely shoot better than he did and offer much more offensively and defensively, you go with those guys. Oats has said that he thinks he can teach shooting so having a sharp-shooter that shot 21% from 3 last year is probably not hard for him to let go.

As for Hawkins, I kind of agree it’s a tad concerning. I never saw what they saw in him. Best case scenario: Oats likes to have one big-bodied guy on the roster for certain matchups and given our big men situation and lack of options thought he should give Hawkins a shot to earn that spot and he didn’t.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 9:06 am
Posted by Harper41
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 9:36 am to
He took Hawkins because he already committed to Oats at Buffalo before he went public. Then Oats left for Alabama shortly after and he didn’t want to leave him high and dry. It also didn’t help Hawkins showed up 20 pounds overweight that summer.
Posted by phil4bama
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 11:41 am to
Then I totally understand. I speculated earlier when Hawkins left that Oats saw our big situation and rolled the dice on a guy he knew might be out of his depth but he could pull him and basically had very little to lose in giving him a shot. It was also pretty classy that he didn’t leave him hung out to dry with nowhere to go. I have no problem with the longshot he took. I just hate it didn’t work out for him or us.

Was he like an emergency plan B when he couldn’t talk Watford out of L$U or had Hawkins already committed?
Posted by Tide or Die87
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:04 pm to
Can we stop with the out of his depth stuff. Like the kid is just complete trash.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:26 pm to
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A 6-foot-6 sophomore from the Bronx, New York, Saquan Singleton was Hutchinson’s leading rebounder, assist and steals leader and was the Blue Dragons fifth-leading scorer. Singleton ranked in the KJCCC’s statistical Top 20 in seven different categories.

Singleton averaged 11.8 points per game while shooting 54.4 percent from the field. He averaged a team-high 7.2 rebounds, 4.9 assists and 1.5 steals with 30 total blocked shots in 30.8 minutes per game.

Singleton ranked third in assists, sixth in the league in rebounding, 13th in field-goal percentage, 15th in blocked shots and 16th in steals.

Singleton posted a triple-double of 14 points, 13 rebounds and 11 assists against NEO on November 12. He also had three other double-doubles this season. Singleton had three games of 12 or more rebounds.


Singleton was named first-team All-Jayhawk West.



Sounds like a good all around player. Pretty impressive for a guard to be 6th in the league in rebounding.
This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 12:31 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:39 pm to
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You could say the same thing about most sub-30% 3pt shooters including Retin and Releford their first 2 years who you yourself labeled as awful shooters those years when they shot a vastly superior 3pt%.


Retin made 14 of 57 3s his first year as a starter. Is that really that much different from 12 of 56? I would say no, but whatever. The point is that there are examples of guys who did not have much success with outside shooting early in their careers becoming capable outside shooters by the end of their careers. The argument that Forbes needs to be cut loose simply because he sucked from outside as a true freshman, even if outside shooting was supposed to be his strength, is not a strong one. Shooting was, is, and always will be just as much about rhythm, consistency, and confidence as it is about skill, so I can't help but give a pass to a guy who may have been thrown into the fire before he was ready and then never got to really play regular minutes.

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but when you have players that want to come in that will likely shoot better than he did and offer much more offensively and defensively, you go with those guys.


This I do agree with though. Forbes did not appear to be a competent ball handler or a particularly enthusiastic defender, which I have a much bigger problem with than his shooting. The fact that he did nothing well is why we are probably going to move on. If he had just struggled from outside but played hard on defense then I would be a bit perturbed if the staff cut him loose just to replace him with another guy who has less eligibility left.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:43 pm to
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Sounds like a good all around player. Pretty impressive for a guard to be 6th in the league in rebounding.


Singleton is very similar to Herb. Long body, versatile, athletic, scrappy, good enough ball handler to run the offense when needed, and a fricking terrible shooter.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:48 pm to
I’ve watched 2 of Singletons full games on YouTube. Not a good shooter but an excellent decision maker and passer. Has nice Handles and does finish around the rim pretty decently. Maybe Oats can get him to at least being a respectable shooter
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:49 pm to
I got the feeling Forbes' biggest issue was confidence. That's how you go from being a great shooter to being a bad shooter in the span of a few months.

I also think he may have come in at a big disadvantage as far as knowledge and playing fast. He certainly didn't give me the feeling he was always sure what to do.

I suspect he could mature into a very solid player, but I could also see him being recruited over and transferring. It's probably going to be up to how hard and how long he wants to work to get on the court.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 3/30/20 at 12:50 pm to
Was just going here to post about him, he is basically a 6'9 220 lb guard. Would be a great fit. Career 35% three point shooter.


Here are highlights of one of his games towards the end of this season where he scored 29 points and got 13 rebounds.


Vance Jackson highlights

This post was edited on 3/30/20 at 1:08 pm
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