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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:07 pm to
Gottfried vs. Stansbury recruiting battles were pure sleaze. Holy shite what a couple of unsavory individuals.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:10 pm to
The fact that we didn't get in trouble is amazing
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:12 pm to
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The fact that we didn't get in trouble is amazing


I've thought the same thing.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:14 pm to
Im probably younger than most of the posters in here, I really started watching Bball Gottfrieds last few years til now, so I haven't been through all let downs of coaches we were once excited that didn't live up to expectations, like some of the people in here have been.

If Oats bombs, as excited as I am about him, I may be right there with them though with the wait and see approach.

I could see some bust potential in both Grant and Johnson and I wasnt as excited about those hires as I am with Oats. Grant took over a pretty sucessful VCU program and while he kept it going his name was made primarily off of one game, beating Duke in the NCAAT, which now seems like more of a fluke than anything. He also didnt have much head coaching experience which worried me.

I was excited about Avery but thought it was a pretty strange hire, aside from his first year on the NBA coaching the Mavs he was mainly a bust there. He had no college coaching experience, and not much head coaching experience in general.

Oats has been a HC much longer than Grant or Johnson had been when they were hired. He was a huge winner in HS and won big at buffalo of all places. I don't feel like he has the same bust potential that Grant or Johnson had. Oats is very respected in the basketball coaching community.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 3:24 pm to
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The fact that we didn't get in trouble is amazing


Same goes for State. It was probably due to the fact that they were fighting for the same group of kids and it's not like either of them could go to the NCAA and be all "you need to do something about those assholes. I just had a kid turn down my $50k offer because they're giving him $60k and a car."
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:06 pm to
Speaking of sleazy coaches Idk how Im gonna be able to keep watching college basketball if Wade and Sean Miller dont get hammered.

I wont be able to take it seriously for sure.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:15 pm to
Since big name schools are involved, I think the coaches will be held responsible more than the schools. If it was just schools like LSU, they would have gotten hammered.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 4:27 pm to
It really should be the coaches more than the schools that get hammered imo, would prevent a lot of it. As it is now the school can get in trouble and the coach can just go off to a different school without any repercussions.

If Wade and Miller both get a 4 or 5 year show clause I will be fine with it.

I think the fact that with LSU and Arizona held onto their Head Coaches even though there is proof both cheated, they may get hit pretty hard. They are pretty much daring the NCAA to hammer them.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 5:31 pm to
Saw this on Reddit.

Points Produced vs. ORTG


and

This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 5:34 pm
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19977 posts
Posted on 7/26/19 at 7:32 pm to
I say players need to pay as well. But NBA/NFL, etc. are not interested in keeping ncaa amateurish. If these players, agents, etc. were held accountable it would be a different story.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 7/26/19 at 8:50 pm to
I get your point and in certain situations I agree, but I have a hard time blaming the players, usually its the players families that are trying to get paid by pimping their kid out to whichever college is the highest bidder.
This post was edited on 7/26/19 at 8:56 pm
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 3:55 pm to
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Alabama Roundball
@BamaRoundball
Flight logs show that N1UA took a trip to Colorado Springs late last night, so expect Alabama to be in the building for the next two days
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 5:32 pm to
What's happening in Colorado Springs?
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 5:38 pm to
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Rising four-star senior Colby Jones speeding up his recruitment, will cut down his list of schools to seven tomorrow, he told @Stockrisers .
Posted by Bryant91092
Member since Dec 2009
25537 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 6:03 pm to
We weren’t in Hunter Dickinson’s final 7.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 6:03 pm to
We are not in Hunter Dickinson's final 7.

Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 6:21 pm to
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K-State Set to Travel to Alabama in Big 12/SEC Challenge

The Wildcats lead the all-time series, 2-1, and will make their first visit to Tuscaloosa since 1994.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 7:33 pm to
I was hoping one of you knew
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 7:45 pm to
Looks like there are USA Junior National Team minicamp games there this weekend.
Posted by Chadaristic
Member since Jan 2011
41004 posts
Posted on 7/27/19 at 7:47 pm to
Marjon Beauchamp seems to be hinting at releasing a top 5 list.
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