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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:49 pm to
Posted by Bamafan18
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 4:49 pm to
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Alabama will host rising junior Colby Jones for an unofficial visit tomorrow, a source told @Stockrisers. Was at Auburn this weekend where he landed offer. The Tide offered him recently as well.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:12 pm to
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Exactly. Some of you are strictly focusing on offense. If Reese is our center.we.are in trouble unless he learns how to rebound and be more physical down low.


Not necessarily. The last three years at Buffalo their big man averaged 6 rebounds a game yet they were still a very good rebounding team, they were 8th in the country in rebounding last season. They had multiple guards who averaged 7 rebounds a game, his system is more about everyone on the floor playing hard and going after rebounds than relying on a traditional big man to do it. If a guard gets a rebound you can get out in transition much faster than having a big who cant dribble get the rebound then have to find a guard to pass it to.

I agree that Reese does need to be more physical on defense. Galin Smith definitely has the edge on him there.

Oats defensive philosophy is more of a swarming the ball concept than we have played in the past, a lot of full court pressure on the guards then having your guards deny the big man on the other team from getting the ball by clogging up all the lanes ect.

It's more about keeping the big on the other team from getting the ball than having a big man who is really good in one on one defense.


This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
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Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:35 pm to
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I think he plays lazy. If he plays the post on defense, he will have to be physical and bang on the big men. That has not been is nature, temperament in the past.
I agree with ALL this. I don't remember ever seeing a player change his basic personality. If a kid's a banger and physical, that's his personality, and if he doesn't have a "physical" aspect to his game, I don't think that can be instilled in them..I may be wrong, but I've never seen such a change over a prolonged period of time.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:38 pm to
I really really think that we are going to see some guys that we thought were playing "lazy" or "slow" and realize that they were doing that because they weren't sure where to go or what to do and that their biggest issue was just having to think too much.

I think that was a HUGE problem under the past regime.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:42 pm to
Hers's Nate Oats talking about how they beat Arizona in the NCAAT. Arizona played two 7 footers, one was Deandre Ayton who was the first pick in the draft. Oats beat them by over 20 points with a lineup that consisted of four guards on the floor most of the time.

LINK
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:43 pm to
Yea, I don't want to hold the Avery years against them. If they do the same shite this season, then I'll blast them
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:52 pm to
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I really really think that we are going to see some guys that we thought were playing "lazy" or "slow" and realize that they were doing that because they weren't sure where to go or what to do and that their biggest issue was just having to think too much.

I think that was a HUGE problem under the past regime.




I'll go a step further and say they weren't sure where to go or what to do because they weren't COACHED and told what to do. This ain't the NBA where you draw a play on a white board during a timeout and all 5 kids know their role.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 5:54 pm to
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I'll go a step further and say they weren't sure where to go or what to do because they weren't COACHED and told what to do. This ain't the NBA where you draw a play on a white board during a timeout and all 5 kids know their role.



Yes, totally agree, that was what I meant to imply.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:03 pm to
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Exactly. Some of you are strictly focusing on offense. If Reese is our center.we.are in trouble unless he learns how to rebound and be more physical down low.


That’s just it though. He rebounds at a slightly better rate than Galin. I’m not saying I love Reese at the 5. I’m just saying I’ll take what should be an immense improvement on offensive spacing vs. a solid post defender who’s (to date) not bringing much else. I’d take Jimmie Taylor in a heartbeat over our current options, but Smith hasn’t been that guy yet.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:10 pm to
I dont think our defense is gonna be great this year no matter who plays.....so Id rather have the guy I know can score out there and that is Reese.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 6:11 pm
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:13 pm to
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Exactly. Some of you are strictly focusing on offense.


And some of you are completely ignoring offense altogether. Basketball is changing, it’s fast, athletic, and all about spacing.

Look, Alex Reese isn’t Dikembe Mutombo, that everyone knows. But, to get on here and act like Galin Smith is THAT much better than Reese at Rebounding/Defense is just ridiculous. I’m not sure Smith is any better at all than Reese.

But, what I do know is the big man that has to check Reese can’t leave him for fear of his jumper, thus, creating space for our other players. I also know that the big man that has to check Galin is going to cheat off like crazy and make life hell for our other players on the floor, and Galin can’t do a damn thing about it.
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:16 pm to
I dont give a shite how much since you try to make you can shut your bitch arse up!!!
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:27 pm to
Damn...that was actually a pretty decent post SabanBear. Im impressed.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:38 pm to
I think what some are overlooking in the Smith vs Reese debate/ position Battle is that Reese is not comfortable playing down low offensively or defensively . He is not a 5 no matter how you draw it up so that leaves Smith, Fleming , and I assume Hawkins. I am just saying that as much as we need / like to score, you HAVE to have someone down there who is able and WILLING to get on the block
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:50 pm to
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That’s just it though. He rebounds at a slightly better rate than Galin. I’m not saying I love Reese at the 5. I’m just saying I’ll take what should be an immense improvement on offensive spacing vs. a solid post defender who’s (to date) not bringing much else. I’d take Jimmie Taylor in a heartbeat over our current options, but Smith hasn’t been that guy yet.





Im no to high on either. Just dont know what guys expect from Reese as a 5.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 6:53 pm to
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I think what some are overlooking in the Smith vs Reese debate/ position Battle is that Reese is not comfortable playing down low offensively or defensively . He is not a 5 no matter how you draw it up so that leaves Smith, Fleming , and I assume Hawkins. I am just saying that as much as we need / like to score, you HAVE to have someone down there who is able and WILLING to get on the block


Oats has already said that he loves to go with 5 out sets. He’s also said that he only likes using one big in a lineup and has called Reese a big consistently through interviews.
Posted by CrimsonFever
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:02 pm to
Auburn got to the final 4 last year playing a small lineup where the biggest guy on the floor was 6’8 225 lbs. B-ball is changing.
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 7:07 pm
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14956 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:03 pm to
If Reese is our big in the lineup we are going to need to score 100 to have a shot at winning
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:05 pm to
Id like to see Oats do it constantly in a big conference. Not saying it cant be done because AU does it but it took them time to do it and i think they did it out of necessity not because its how they wanted to play at first.
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
14956 posts
Posted on 6/3/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Auburn got to the final 4 last year playing a small lineup where the biggest guy on the floor was 6’8 225 lbs. B-ball is changing.


True but they were red hot with clutch shooting and as others have said, they had to play that way . They were the exception to the rule . I agree that two big plodding guys in the lineup is not necessary . Reese is a spot up shooter , nothing more, nothing less. He can be effective but he is slow and soft no matter what height he is

In the end it doesn’t matter what any of us think, Oats will put his best lineup out there the way he wants to play or gives us the best chance to win
This post was edited on 6/3/19 at 7:13 pm
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