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Posted on 12/27/19 at 5:30 pm to wm72
He is about the size Hall was coming out of HS but unlike Hall can dribble and shoot. Hall wasn't that great of a shot blocker, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game, he was pretty undersized for a 5 too.
Doubt we recruit any 6'8 200 lb players who cant shoot under Oats.
Doubt we recruit any 6'8 200 lb players who cant shoot under Oats.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 5:53 pm to CrimsonFever
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He is about the size Hall was coming out of HS but unlike Hall can dribble and shoot. Hall wasn't that great of a shot blocker, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game, he was pretty undersized for a 5 too.
Doubt we recruit any 6'8 200 lb players who cant shoot under Oats.
Yeah, I get it about Oats mainly wanting players that can shoot.
However, it seems a key difference aside from shooting between Ambrose and Hall is that Hall was an elite rim protector.
Again, I could be wrong but I watched some of Ambrose's highlights a while back and he struck me as great prospect but probably closer to the Reese mold than Hall -- tall guy with nicely polished skill set who's raw athleticism doesn't really jump out.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:06 pm to wm72
Hall wasnt an elite rim protecter imo. He was solid, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game last year as a SR.
I think Ambrose averaged 1.4 blocks per game last year in HS.
I think Ambrose averaged 1.4 blocks per game last year in HS.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:10 pm to CrimsonFever
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Hall wasnt an elite rim protecter imo. He was solid, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game last year as a SR.
I think Ambrose averaged 1.4 blocks per game last year in HS.
Hall could standing jump over the backboard though.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:14 pm to wm72
Ambrose has a similar frame to Hall is all I am saying, he isn't a small dude. Their physical strength and size coming out of HS is comparable, but Ambrose is more skilled and a higher ranked prospect than Hall was. I think Ambrose may be the biggest guy we sign in this class, he is a solid rebounder and can play inside out like Oats wants.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 6:26 pm to CrimsonFever
We are targeting Charles Bediako for the 2021 class, he is a 6'11 C and is leaning towards Alabama. He has a chance to be an elite rim protector, moreso than Hall.
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Posted on 12/27/19 at 9:25 pm to CrimsonFever
He better be able to really run at that size or he will stall the offense.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:45 pm to DT55Forever1
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He better be able to really run at that size or he will stall the offense.
If he doesn't move well, he can learn to be a trailing shooter if he has a stroke.
UNC was #6 in tempo last year despite Luke Maye's slow walk-on feet playing >30mpg
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:53 pm to CrimsonFever
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Hall wasnt an elite rim protecter imo.
Per KenPom he was #50 and #35 nationally (#16 amongst P5/High Midmajors) in Block% his SO / JR years respectively before a dip to #123 his SR year
Idk what you consider ‘elite’ but it is extremely rare to find that level of rim protection.
Posted on 12/27/19 at 11:57 pm to CrimsonFever
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Hall wasnt an elite rim protecter imo
He was damn good. Not everything is about blocks. Every player that went into the lane had to alter their shot because he was in the game.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 6:49 am to CrimsonFever
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and is leaning towards Alabama
Link? Or are you just basing this off CB%?
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:02 am to CrimsonFever
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Hall wasnt an elite rim protecter imo. He was solid, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game last year as a SR.
1) Robert Horry 286
2) Roy Rogers. 266
3) Donte Hall. 227
He also ranks 17th in the SEC for career blocks. Not sure what classifies as elite to you
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:27 am to CrimsonFever
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We are targeting Charles Bediako for the 2021 class, he is a 6'11 C and is leaning towards Alabama
Assuming you are basing this solely off of the 2 CB picks we have received, I believe the reason we got those is that we were one of the programs that was willing to take him in the 2020 class if he reclassified. If he doesn't reclassify it would be pretty shocking if we signed him over some of the teams that are after him.
Posted on 12/28/19 at 10:37 am to Cobrasize
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1) Robert Horry 286
2) Roy Rogers. 266
3) Donte Hall. 227
Horry played significantly more minutes than Hall did. On a per minute basis, Hall blocked more shots.
Horry 0.076 blocks per minute played
Hall 0.081 blocks per minute played
Posted on 12/28/19 at 12:21 pm to Cobrasize
Yeah but Donta was terrible if someone got him posted up. It was an automatic bucket for the other team......You can thank Ponytail for that
Posted on 12/28/19 at 8:42 pm to mistaken4193
To clarify i was in no way saying that Ambrose was gonna be an elite rim protector, I was comparing his size to Hall's size coming out of HS. I didn't consider Hall an elite rim protector either, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game, this year there are 45 players currently averaging more blocks than that per game.
Hall was a bit undersized for a 5, but he was a really good rebounder for his size and is a good all around player.
Hall was a bit undersized for a 5, but he was a really good rebounder for his size and is a good all around player.
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:14 pm to CrimsonFever
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I didn't consider Hall an elite rim protector either, he averaged 1.6 blocks per game
Per Kenpom, Hall has the top 2 block% seasons for Alabama in the past 19 seasons and 3 of top 6
He had a clearly poor SR season, but Hall was one of the best shot blockers in CBB through his first 3 years
Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:28 pm to GenesChin
Blocks per game were
Fr 1.7
So 1.4
Jr 2.0
Sr 1.6
He was a solid shot blocker but not elite.
Alabama hasn't had a lot of great big men in that span so that doesn't surprise me.
Fr 1.7
So 1.4
Jr 2.0
Sr 1.6
He was a solid shot blocker but not elite.
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Per Kenpom, Hall has the top 2 block% seasons for Alabama in the past 19 seasons and 3 of top 6
Alabama hasn't had a lot of great big men in that span so that doesn't surprise me.
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Posted on 12/28/19 at 9:40 pm to CrimsonFever
Mike Watkins, Penn States center, who we just played against
is averaging 3.8 blocks per game in 23 minutes a game, that's what I would consider elite. He isn't even first in the country in blocked shots he is 4th. The first place guy Osasumwen Osaghae is averaging 4.8 blocks a game in 25 minutes.
If you think 1.6 blocks per game in 27 minutes a game is elite then I don't know what to tell you. I love Hall, think he is a great player and wish we still had him. He was not an elite rim protector though. 1.6 blocks per game would put him at 74th in the country in blocked shots this season.
is averaging 3.8 blocks per game in 23 minutes a game, that's what I would consider elite. He isn't even first in the country in blocked shots he is 4th. The first place guy Osasumwen Osaghae is averaging 4.8 blocks a game in 25 minutes.
If you think 1.6 blocks per game in 27 minutes a game is elite then I don't know what to tell you. I love Hall, think he is a great player and wish we still had him. He was not an elite rim protector though. 1.6 blocks per game would put him at 74th in the country in blocked shots this season.
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