re: Tua / Mac - a quarterback comparison

Both of these guys aren't white. They're half black.


Polynesians are not half black...

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What really is the point of the thread? It's like comparing an apple and orange -- they might be more different than alike. Why waste energy on a comparison or debate about who might be better in various ways? Regardless, both are great QBs.

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Oh jeez lighten up Francis... Nothing wrong with fans comparing players.. Takes nothing away from the greatness of either and both have shown that they are elite...

I didn't get the impression that OP was ragging on either of them... I sometimes compare like to compare Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali... BOTH amazing fighters with different styles..

I swear some of you all actually think you're Nick Saban being asked a dumb question at a press conference and your answers will be highlighted on sports center..

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Shouldn't we be comparing Mac Jones to Bryce Young? Or is that too painful?

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Go for it. I've not seen enough of Bryce Young to possibly contribute to the discussion, but by all means.

Our offense will change again next year if Bryce Youngs is the QB. There will be a lot more RPO, and less standing in the pocket. Better get another QB ready though, because RPO QBs take more hits.

I'd like to think that we can continue running this style of offense with Bryce Young. I know he can run but that can be of use with draws or the occasional boot, move the pocket a little more than we do with Mac, give him an option to run it or throw it when he gets to the edge, etc. I'd prefer not to see us go back to the RPO style that we used in 18 & 19. I just think our offensive line run blocking suffers greatly in that scenario. You completely ruin their aggressiveness.

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As far as Mac realizing his limitations, could you expand on that some?

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He is not as athletic as Tua. He seems to understand those limitations and allows the players around him to do that part of the leg work. This was not an insult to Mac. IMO sometimes the best players are the players that recognize their limitations and don’t try to play outside of their capabilities. I will say that Mac has made more ill advised throws recently than he was initially. Some of that is frustration from the first four games of success where it was like everyone was wide open everywhere. The loss of Jalen has caused a lot of this I believe.

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I agree with that. And if you look at Mac's raw numbers, they have gone down pretty good with Waddle out. With Waddle there, you had a one-on-one deep shot available on almost every play because of the matchup issues created. Devonta to some degree has made people (not UA fans necessarily) forget how damn good Jaylen Waddle is.

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7 straight games Alabama has scored over 40 points in a game. Mac just threw 5 TDs vs the barn. What am I missing?

He's down almost 80 passing yards per game since Waddle went down. If you take the three games where teams have been able to game plan for no Waddle he's down about 110 yards passing per game from when Waddle was in the lineup. That's what I meant by raw numbers. We are still scoring well obviously and I'm not complaining, but he's missing those couple of explosive plays that Waddle was good for each game in terms of his raw yardage.

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Mac’s run to the right side for the first down was like watching a movie. Kind of suspenseful. He managed that stop and redirect for the first down. Resourceful if not fast.

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Hes not unathletic though. Made plenty of plays with his legs last Iron Bowl

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He's down almost 80 passing yards per game since Waddle went down. If you take the three games where teams have been able to game plan for no Waddle he's down about 110 yards passing per game from when Waddle was in the lineup. That's what I meant by raw numbers. We are still scoring well obviously and I'm not complaining, but he's missing those couple of explosive plays that Waddle was good for each game in terms of his raw yardage.

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You are hard to please. Look, we aren't Florida, we aren't interested in all pass and no run, and thank goodness. I can't say this hasn't been beneficial in a number of respects. One, we don't lose sight of our superior OL and rushing attack, which has been known to happen in the last few years. As a result, we are getting downright physical at the LOS and it looks like our defense is following suit. Advantage.

Second: Devonta Smith is the most unassuming superstar we've ever had at any position. All those great players around him, he has integrated without a whimper even if he has always had the best hands. Devonta was doing the same thing with Waddle in the game, deferring, and Metchie blossoming, more deferring. That's who he is. Now, he's the show and he has to be, and look what we have? DBs all over his azz and he's making them pay, big time.

Mismatches are where you find them. And we have more than most. But some mismatches need reps and lots of them. I was thinking about Derrick Henry when I said that.