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Posted on 6/30/23 at 5:07 am to Chadaristic
Posted on 6/30/23 at 5:07 am to Chadaristic
It most definitely did!
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:00 am to Chadaristic
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I think the bigger lane really helped JD's game
Yep. But college was also the only time where JD had probably been challenged. Until then, nobody could match him physically. He didn't even get aau experience with COVID shutdowns. So the game was much faster then he was used to. I think the wider lanes and experience in a physical SEC helped things slow down for him. Plus, the biggest adjustment from HS to the next level is always at PG. There's so much more to learn when you run the offense.
I'm hoping Stevenson doesn't have the same adjustment issues as JD. But they both come from similar situation, his who dominated in low classification basketball. Luckily for JS, he has been around good coaching and had played aau ball. Seeing what he does in the EYBL in the next couple weeks should give us a better idea of what to expect.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 9:08 am
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:20 am to CCTider
Stevenson is also going to be able to operate as more of a Robin than a Batman, so the learning curve shouldn't be as steep.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:22 am to Robot Santa
True. Looking back on that 21-22 squad, we had a lot less talent. JQ and Shack were the stars, Bediako was an awkward freshmen (who got in to foul trouble regularly like Pringle last year). How we ended up as a 6 seed is crazy. But, Oats still hadn't gotten the type of players he wanted, and used what we had. When you have Shack averaging almost 9 3fga per game, you aren't built to go deep in any tournament. Undersized and inexperienced.
The current freshmen are in a much, much better situation for development. The can contribute when they're ready instead of trail by fire. The portal has been very helpful. Because we'd be in rough shape this year without it. It needs to be tweaked. The cons just seem to stick out when you see things like JQ leaving in late June.
The current freshmen are in a much, much better situation for development. The can contribute when they're ready instead of trail by fire. The portal has been very helpful. Because we'd be in rough shape this year without it. It needs to be tweaked. The cons just seem to stick out when you see things like JQ leaving in late June.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 11:23 am
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:27 am to CCTider
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Jarin Stevenson explains decision to join Alabama and reclassify
The 6-foot-10 power forward is also reclassifying and will join the Crimson Tide for the upcoming season.
Last week, local boys basketball standout Jarin Stevenson announced his commitment to the University of Alabama, and his decision to leave Seaforth early and join the Crimson Tide ahead of the 2023-24 season.
Stevenson, who is headed to Tuscaloosa to enroll this week, chatted with the News & Record after his announcement to detail why exactly he chose the Crimson Tide over UNC, Virginia and several other schools. He said head coach Nate Oats’ program was not only the best decision for his immediate future, but also the one that sets him up best for his aspirations beyond college.
"First off, all the schools are great schools and had great communities,” Stevenson said. “But what set Alabama apart is the NBA offense they run and the open spots they have available where I can earn myself an opportunity to play and have an impact as a freshman."
The 6-foot-10 forward, who was recently ranked No. 40 overall in the Class of 2023 by 247Sports’ composite ranking, is the Crimson Tide’s highest-rated commit in the Class. Other freshmen set to join the team for the upcoming season are No. 58 Sam Walters (6-foot-8 forward), No. 98 Kris Parker (6-foot-6 forward) and No. 110 Mouhamed Dioubate (6-foot-7 forward).
Stevenson told the News & Record that Alabama’s coaches expect him to fill the role Noah Clowney held in the offense last season. Clowney, a fellow 6-foot-10 forward, averaged 9.8 points and 7.9 rebounds per game in 36 games for the Crimson Tide in 22-23, earning SEC All-Freshman Team honors along the way.
Last Thursday, Clowney — who was ranked No. 79 overall in the Class of 2022 by 247’s Composite rankings — was selected No. 21 overall by the Brooklyn Nets in the 2023 NBA Draft. Stevenson hopes he can make a similar jump over the next year and put himself in place to join the pro ranks next June.
"That's ideally what I would like, but ultimately it's going to happen when the time is right,” Stevenson said. “I need to put in a lot of work and continue to get better. I feel like Alabama has the coaches and the resources to help me get there. They've proved it with Clowney and different prospects. I should be ready after Year 1, but if that doesn't happen, whenever the time is right."
At 6-foot-10 with a solid handle and some shooting touch, Stevenson is the ideal type of forward for today’s NBA, but there is still plenty he needs to work on with his game to improve his stock over the next year. He shot an O.K. percentage from 3-point range with Seaforth last season (25-of-74, 33.7%), but he’ll likely need to bump that up above 35 or 40% to really catch the eye of scouts.
Another thing he’ll need to do is add weight to his frame. At 200 pounds flat, Stevenson could probably stand to gain 30 or 40 pounds to build a more desirable frame for NBA teams. Right now, the only NBA players who stand 6-foot-10 or higher and weigh 230 pounds or less are Miami’s Nikola Jovic (205), Brooklyn’s Nic Claxton (215), Cleveland’s Evan Mobley (215), Memphis’ Santi Aldama (215) and Denver’s Michael Porter Jr. (218).
Luckily for Stevenson, Alabama has state of the art athletic facilities thanks to the success of its football program, and the men’s basketball team has a solid strength and conditioning coach in Henry Barrera, whose previous stops included time as a performance training specialist at Nike World Headquarters in Beaverton, Ore. Stevenson said he’s excited at the chance to put on more weight over the coming months.
“I'm excited to see the cuts and rips I'm going to get,” he said. “Alabama is a football school, but that doesn't mean they're just going to put on football weight. They mentioned that they're going to put us in basketball shape and help us put on smart weight. That way I'm still agile and quick on the floor but, at the same time, I'm getting stronger."
While the decision to leave high school a year early was tough for Stevenson, he is grateful for the opportunity he was given to help start Seaforth’s boys basketball program. Stevenson played his freshman year at Northwood before moving across town to his new school, and he leaves the Hawks as their all-time leading scorer with 1,011 points in just two seasons.
This past winter, Stevenson earned Gatorade North Carolina Boys’ Basketball Player of the Year honors after averaging 21.5 points, 11.6 rebounds and 3.7 blocks per game and shooting 60.1% of his shots from the field. The Hawks will have a hard time replacing that kind of production, but Stevenson likes the direction the program is heading.
"It was nice, going to a new school and creating a foundation, Stevenson said. “Seaforth is a great school. We have a great team, and I'm excited for their future. I had a good time playing with them."
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:32 am to Chadaristic
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Stevenson told the News & Record that Alabama’s coaches expect him to fill the role Noah Clowney held in the offense last season. Clowney, a fellow 6-foot-10 forward, averaged 9.8 points and 7.9 rebounds per game in 36 games for the Crimson Tide in 22-23, earning SEC All-Freshman Team honors along the way.
Last Thursday, Clowney — who was ranked No. 79 overall in the Class of 2022 by 247’s Composite rankings — was selected No. 21 overall by the Brooklyn Nets in the 2023 NBA Draft. Stevenson hopes he can make a similar jump over the next year and put himself in place to join the pro ranks next June.
"That's ideally what I would like, but ultimately it's going to happen when the time is right,” Stevenson said. “I need to put in a lot of work and continue to get better. I feel like Alabama has the coaches and the resources to help me get there. They've proved it with Clowney and different prospects. I should be ready after Year 1, but if that doesn't happen, whenever the time is right."
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Another thing he’ll need to do is add weight to his frame. At 200 pounds flat, Stevenson could probably stand to gain 30 or 40 pounds to build a more desirable frame for NBA teams. Right now, the only NBA players who stand 6-foot-10 or higher and weigh 230 pounds or less are Miami’s Nikola Jovic (205), Brooklyn’s Nic Claxton (215), Cleveland’s Evan Mobley (215), Memphis’ Santi Aldama (215) and Denver’s Michael Porter Jr. (218).
Interesting stuff.
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“Alabama is a football school" - JS
Damnit man.
ETA: credit to auisssa for already posting this story on the last page.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 11:34 am
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:37 am to Chadaristic
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Ill rank the 8 man rotation in which players I think get the most usage, jmo
1.Estrada
2.Nelson
3.Sears
4.Griffen
5.Pringle
6. Walters or Stevenson
7. Wrightsell
8. Stevenson or Walters
9. Dioubete - could see him moving up if he is healthy based on how good he is defense
10. Davin Cosby
11. Kris Parker
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1) Nelson
2) Estrada
3) Sears
4) Griffen
5) Pringle
6) Wrightsell (I think he can be really good)
7) Mo (If Healthy)
8) Stevenson
9) Walters (He's Going To Surprise Ppl)
I'm a wait and see with Cosby (who I am high on) and Kris!
I'm not saying that i'm right or that either of you are wrong, but it looks like I must be considerably higher on Davin Cosby than either of y'all are.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:51 am to Chadaristic
Cosby is certainly the leader in the clubhouse if we're talking potential impact freshmen. He got a big head start on running through full practices and S&C work.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:06 pm to Chadaristic
I like Cosby we’re just deeper at guard than we are at PF so I see Walters and Stevenson playing more than him out of necessity.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:11 pm to Chadaristic
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At 200 pounds flat, Stevenson could probably stand to gain 30 or 40 pounds to build a more desirable frame for NBA teams. Right now, the only NBA players who stand 6-foot-10 or higher and weigh 230 pounds or less are Miami’s Nikola Jovic (205), Brooklyn’s Nic Claxton (215), Cleveland’s Evan Mobley (215), Memphis’ Santi Aldama (215) and Denver’s Michael Porter Jr. (218).
That’s one of the dumbest quotes I’ve ever read. Just off the top of my Head they left off Jabari Smith who is 6’10 220. Clowney just got drafted in the first round at 6’10 210.
Stevenson meeds to gain 10 or 15 lbs sure but thats it and more than doable by next years draft.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:17 pm to CrimsonFever
They also name Claxton, Mobley, and MPJ who are all pretty good.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:21 pm to Robot Santa
Lol right.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:24 pm to CrimsonFever
There's also something in there about him needing to boost his 3pt% to 35-40 instead of the pedestrian 33% he shot in high school. Like, dude, a 6'10" 18yo forward who can make 33% of his 3s is an NBA GM's wet dream. If he makes 40% of them this year he's a top 5 pick.
The quotes from Stevenson were great, but some of that analysis reeks of salty UNC fan.
The quotes from Stevenson were great, but some of that analysis reeks of salty UNC fan.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:27 pm to Chadaristic
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I'm not saying that i'm right or that either of you are wrong, but it looks like I must be considerably higher on Davin Cosby than either of y'all are
I'm not a big fan of his high school play but we'll see how he plays now.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:29 pm to Robot Santa
Yeah I mean speaking of Clowney he just got drafted in the first round shooting 27% from three last year.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:00 pm to Chadaristic
Cosby really have been putting in the work behind the scenes and hopefully he learned a thing or two from Brandon Miller.
I could see him playing a lot though because he can really shoot it from deep range and I think Cosby was labeled as a good defender out of highschool.
I could see him playing a lot though because he can really shoot it from deep range and I think Cosby was labeled as a good defender out of highschool.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:19 pm to Joka2kold
Cosby looks like he’s gotten big enough to play some 3, that should help him get playing time.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:29 pm to CrimsonFever
And there is a pretty good chance that he will be our best perimeter shooter. He was considered by many to be the best long range shooter in his class before the reclassification. Should be around 6’5” 200 lbs by the time the season rolls around. I think he may be a little under the radar right now when trying to forecast what this team will look like in six months. He’s definitely going to have a pretty decent sized role imo.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:40 pm to Joka2kold
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I could see him playing a lot though because he can really shoot it from deep range
But Joka…how do we know this? We haven’t seen him do it at a P6 level.
Only players on the team I’m 100% confident will produce is Sears,Griffen, and Pringle. Because I’ve seen them do it. All others are in prove it mode against P6 talent
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:40 pm to Chadaristic
It will be interesting to see who our best 3 point shooter is but we should have some solid ones.
Sears shot 41% from three two years ago and 35% last year
Estrada shot 37% from three last year
Wrightsell shot 38% from three last year and is over 35% for his career.
If Cosby can shoot better than those from 3 that would be great and would for sure help him get playing time. His size will help too he’s one of our biggest guards.
Sears shot 41% from three two years ago and 35% last year
Estrada shot 37% from three last year
Wrightsell shot 38% from three last year and is over 35% for his career.
If Cosby can shoot better than those from 3 that would be great and would for sure help him get playing time. His size will help too he’s one of our biggest guards.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 2:02 pm
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