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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:27 am to TiderinVa
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Jahvon Quinerly
Jaden Shackelford
Keon Ellis
JD Davison
James Rojas
Keon Ambrose-Hylton
Alex Tchikou
Yeah, Nate Oats and Alabama are going to hit the transfer portal hard. Should have at least have two spots available, assuming JD leaves for the NBA.
Clint Lamb
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:29 am to Chadaristic
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Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:32 am to Chadaristic
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Mark Sears had his season come to an end tonight but man he couldn’t have played better. 35 points, 7 boards and 3 assists. 10-19 from the field and 14-19 from the FT line. Can score in a multitude of ways
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Sears finished the season averaging 19.1/6.0/4.1 and 1.7 steals per game on 44.1/41.3/89.8 splits. Really talented player
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:34 am to Chadaristic
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SEC Hires:
Georgia: Mike White
Missouri: Dennis Gates
Mississippi State: Chris Jans
Florida: Todd Golden
LSU: Matt McMahon
South Carolina: Lamont Paris
One coach who got out before he was let go, and 5 other mid-major coaches.
Tough to poach guys from other high-major spots.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:39 am to Chadaristic
Kind of feels like a step back for the league, honestly. And I'm ok with it.
Golden seems to have some real potential. McMahon could, and for where LSU is is a very solid hire. Gates maybe? Jans has done exactly what NMSU had done for 20 years. White is exactly what everyone knows he is. Paris.....goodness.
I thought Tommy Lloyd and Mark Adams might move some more teams into trying to hire well respected assistants to good coaches who are heavily involved. Kansas State did it with Tang but nobody in our league seemed to want to.
Golden seems to have some real potential. McMahon could, and for where LSU is is a very solid hire. Gates maybe? Jans has done exactly what NMSU had done for 20 years. White is exactly what everyone knows he is. Paris.....goodness.
I thought Tommy Lloyd and Mark Adams might move some more teams into trying to hire well respected assistants to good coaches who are heavily involved. Kansas State did it with Tang but nobody in our league seemed to want to.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 7:41 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:41 am to Chadaristic
The only two of those I think are still employed by the schools that just hired them 5 years from now are White, because UGA doesn't care, and Jans, because he's a good coach if he can keep his hands to himself.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Kind of feels like a step back for the league, honestly. And I'm ok with it.
Is it though? Aside from LSU, who is about to get buried under sanctions, none of those teams have competed for much of anything in recent years. I think most of this hiring cycle is just going to result in a rearranging of the deck chairs at the bottom of the conference.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:46 am to SummerOfGeorge
I like Tang and thought State should've went hard after him. Maybe they tried, idk.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:48 am to Robot Santa
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Jans, because he's a good coach if he can keep his hands to himself.
Saw something from Coaching Changes on Twitter that said he may offer an assistant coaching job to Gregg Marshall. No idea of that's true, but if it is.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:50 am to Chadaristic
If true, I'll amend my previous post to "only Mike White is still employed 5 years from now, because UGA doesn't care."
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:55 am to Allthatfades
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guess Shack and Ellis could go overseas.
Ellis is projected 2nd round, #44 on updated ESPN mock draft. On nbadraft.com, Keon is 54, JQ 46, and JD first round 29. Shack not listed anywhere. Still would not be surprosed to see Shack back.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 7:57 am to Chadaristic
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Mark Sears had his season come to an end tonight
I keep hearing about him, but is he even planning to transfer?
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:02 am to Robot Santa
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Is it though? Aside from LSU, who is about to get buried under sanctions, none of those teams have competed for much of anything in recent years. I think most of this hiring cycle is just going to result in a rearranging of the deck chairs at the bottom of the conference.
Good point - I guess I kind of meant in relation to recent hires, not specifically those schools. But you are right, in terms of those schools themselves it's hard to take much of a step back.
The only one that I think could actually be a step back in terms of performance is Carolina. Martin was what he was but they won 16+ games every year he was there post-2014 other than last year. And he also won 7 or more SEC games all of those seasons. I could easily see Paris cratering.
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 8:03 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:06 am to Robot Santa
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Is it though?
It's definitely a step back in name recognition and career accomplishments, but that's not always a bad thing. I do think Florida probably could/should have done better, but I don't really mind seeing schools try and have an eye toward the future with younger coaching hires.
I almost kind of equate it to the NFL where you see teams every year make HC changes and just roll with the same old retreads. Instead of these teams hiring Lovie Smith, at least they tried to hire a younger up and comer I guess. Kind of what we did with Oats in a way.
UGA hiring White is questionable, but I guess I get it considering they still don't seem to care about basketball at all.
Carolina hiring Paris is very suspect. I wouldn't be happy at all if I was Gamecock fan, but maybe he'll prove me wrong.
I actually kind of like Dennis Gates, but not sure how it will pan out. Seems like a good spot for him to quietly try and build them back up.
Jans is a decent coach, but he's not really a needle mover for me. Starkville is a tough gig.
All of these guys will need to hire some home run staffs, because I don't know how well they will be able to recruit, especially early on without any success.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:12 am to Chadaristic
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All of these guys will need to hire some home run staffs, because I don't know how well they will be able to recruit, especially early on without any success.
Agree - honestly I don't quite get all the Jans love. His only year at Bowling Green was a trip to the CIT. Sure, he won a bunch of WAC games at NMSU, but that conference is possibly the worst conference outside of the HBCU conferences, and NMSU has been dominating it for years. Weir dominated won it in his only year there. Menzies won it 5 of his last 7 years there. Reggie Theus, who was a disaster everywhere else, won it.
His teams have ranked in the Top 50 of advanced metrics 1 time in 6 seasons (#49 in 2019). His style is slow and defensive oriented.
Honestly, depending on recruiting, I think his teams are going to look a whole lot like..........the guy he replaced?
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 8:24 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:20 am to AbSnopes
I know the nba drafts on potential but I can’t get my head around what they see in JD to use a first round pick on him. On paper his ceiling and athletic profile should be Russell Westbrook, but instead of finisher at the rim he’s a pass first player that turns the ball over a lot. I won’t be disappointed if he leaves but if those close care about him the message should be one more year at school learning how to play basketball outside of Lowndes county.
He doesn’t even need to work on his jumpshot to be a lottery pick. If he improves his dribble enough to beat a perimeter defender on the bounce then he would be a handful at the rim, assuming the improved skill would give him the confidence to actually attack the rim with a purpose instead of stopping halfway and looking for anyone in any color Jersey to throw the ball to
He doesn’t even need to work on his jumpshot to be a lottery pick. If he improves his dribble enough to beat a perimeter defender on the bounce then he would be a handful at the rim, assuming the improved skill would give him the confidence to actually attack the rim with a purpose instead of stopping halfway and looking for anyone in any color Jersey to throw the ball to
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:44 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Was curious so I looked
A look at the coaches and their last 3 years at their school compared to the prior 3 years before they were hired to see what they took over and then what they left behind. Also, for comparatives, the same look at 3 coaches hired at the same time in the last big cycle (Oats, Muss, Buzz).
Also - one including 2021 and one excluding it, as the COVID year really messed with mid-majors a lot.
Including 2021
Without 2021
A look at the coaches and their last 3 years at their school compared to the prior 3 years before they were hired to see what they took over and then what they left behind. Also, for comparatives, the same look at 3 coaches hired at the same time in the last big cycle (Oats, Muss, Buzz).
Also - one including 2021 and one excluding it, as the COVID year really messed with mid-majors a lot.
Including 2021
Without 2021
This post was edited on 3/22/22 at 8:51 am
Posted on 3/22/22 at 8:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
Good stuff. I'm sticking with liking Gates and think he can do something decent with Mizzou as long as he's able to get some decent talent through recruiting and the portal.
Posted on 3/22/22 at 9:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I guess I kind of meant in relation to recent hires
I agree with that. None of them were very inspiring hires compared to what the SEC has been doing recently. All of them besides White came out of the "one good year at a mid-major" or "succeeded at a mid-major everyone succeeds at" wells the SEC had a really bad habit of dipping into during the 00s.
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