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Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:55 pm to mistaken4193
Posted on 6/7/21 at 1:55 pm to mistaken4193
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The Guy who was our leading scorer last year
You bench that guy. He’s not a good shooter, finisher, passer, ball-handler, or defender.
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:21 pm to Crimsontide1713
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@kiralewisjr ranked 8th among all #NBA players in assist-to-turnover ratio, finishing his rookie campaign with 124 assists against only 34 turnovers (3.65 ratio)
KIRA LEWIS JR. PELICANS SEASON IN REVIEW | 2020-21
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:31 pm to Crimsontide1713
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You bench that guy. He’s not a good shooter, finisher, passer, ball-handler, or defender.
Did we watch the same Shackelford the last 2 years?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:54 pm to Robot Santa
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My issue is with the idea that he needs to start because apparently the rest of the roster isn't any good or something.
I don't think anyone said that, or even insinuated as much. But me, and the other dude said we've watched him, and he's too good not to end up a starter. Just us stating an opinion, during the off-season. Relax.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:58 pm to mistaken4193
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You bench that guy. He’s not a good shooter, finisher, passer, ball-handler, or defender.
Did we watch the same Shackelford the last 2 years?
I don't agree with what he's saying, but I understand where he's coming from. Shack can score a lot. But he also has a tendency to play recklessly. I've seen a lot of poor shot selection from him the last couple years. He can do all of those things, and do them well. But if he forces it and tries to play hero ball, he can be very inefficient. And we've gotten to a point where we're don't need to play hero ball (like we did with Sexton), because there's a lot of talented shooters and scorers on the court at any given time.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:42 pm to mistaken4193
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Did we watch the same Shackelford the last 2 years?
Evidently we didn’t.
34% from 3 and 75% from the line. Not a good shooter.
47% from 2. Not a good finisher.
53 TS% overall. Poor efficiency.
Only averaged 2.0 assists per game. Not a good passer
Averaged 2.0 assists to 1.5 TOV. Not a good ball-handler.
Averaged less than 1 steal and 0.1 BLK per game. Not a good defender.
JD is literally better at everything but shooting. And even that’s arguable.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:44 pm to CCTider
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And in all reality, who gives a damn about who is a starter. The real question, is who the closers are.
Exactly right! Either finishing the game or playing when the game is tight is most important. Do need good free throw shooters at the end, but Oats was masterful this past year rotating defense and offense players at the end of tight games. Of course, sometimes "best laid plans....go awry" because Rojas hit big 3's to win games twice and hit crucial free throws another time. Also coach can reward players with a start, but you know who can win by who plays in the clutch, no matter how many stars coming in.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:14 pm to Crimsontide1713
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Evidently we didn’t.
34% from 3 and 75% from the line. Not a good shooter.
47% from 2. Not a good finisher.
53 TS% overall. Poor efficiency.
Only averaged 2.0 assists per game. Not a good passer
Averaged 2.0 assists to 1.5 TOV. Not a good ball-handler.
Averaged less than 1 steal and 0.1 BLK per game. Not a good defender.
JD is literally better at everything but shooting. And even that’s arguable.
LOL...Shacks only weakness is sometimes he blindly drives the ball inside and heaves a blind layup up.
And we don’t know JD is better. I’ve seen Shack against SEC competition...I haven’t JD.
Both are great players
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:30 pm to mistaken4193
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LOL...Shacks only weakness is sometimes he blindly drives the ball inside and heaves a blind layup up.
Lmfao you think that’s his only weakness?
Literally the only thing he’s even remotely good at is scoring, and he shoots 41% from the field and 34% from 3...
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:45 pm to Crimsontide1713
This player that you are acting like can't shoot, dribble, drive, or pass, was 2nd team SEC last year and deservedly so.
As for who starts it really doesn't matter, Quinerly didnt start last year and was still one of the leaders in minutes played in most games.
As for who starts it really doesn't matter, Quinerly didnt start last year and was still one of the leaders in minutes played in most games.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:08 pm to CrimsonFever
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This player that you are acting like can't shoot, dribble, drive, or pass, was 2nd team SEC last year and deservedly so.
Quinerly should have made it over Shackelford.
I know Shackelford is a vet but when it comes down to it there is no fricking way he’s starting over or playing more minutes than JD.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:22 pm to Crimsontide1713
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Alabama coach @nate_oats said on @Tide1009 this afternoon that freshman Charles Bediako measured 6-11 3/4 when he checked in for summer
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:25 pm to Crimsontide1713
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JD will start. You don’t bring top 10 guys off the bench. Especially not at Bama
When Collin Sexton came in, you definitely don’t have him coming off the bench. Our roster was pure trash (AJ jr., Dazon, Bola, Giddens, Reese, Ar’Mond, Jimmy, etc.). This isn’t that kind of roster anymore. Davison could very well be a bench player. Not saying that will happen, but it could go either way.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:31 pm to saban n bear
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When Collin Sexton came in, you definitely don’t have him coming off the bench. Our roster was pure trash (AJ jr., Dazon, Bola, Giddens, Reese, Ar’Mond, Jimmy, etc.). This isn’t that kind of roster anymore. Davison could very well be a bench player. Not saying that will happen, but it could go either way.
Are you suggesting that Jaden Shackelford would have a chance at starting over Collin Sexton?
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:07 pm to Crimsontide1713
You guys do Jaden Shackelford wrong. He averaged 14 PPG and was the leading scorer. Our leading scorer heading into his Jr. season isn’t getting benched. Come on, be real here.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:09 pm to saban n bear
I actually expect Shack will be greatly improved next season. That dude works his arse off all year long. He will definitely be a better player next year. And he wont be asked to create his own shot off the dribble as much.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:15 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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I actually expect Shack will be greatly improved next season. That dude works his arse off all year long. He will definitely be a better player next year. And he wont be asked to create his own shot off the dribble as much.
yea, id say his efficiency issues at times came from trying to be a more versatile playmaker and having a lack of real set ups overall. herb did his best but was never entirely comfortable at the point, so jq was really the only legit set up guy. i think now with jd and jq driving teams crazy shack will be much more in his lane and if he does show more playmaking polish himself then yea, hell be a much better player. the talent and drive are certainly there for him to do it. as for the D ill say his ability to keep his man in front was much better than as a freshman. by no means what one would call a liability.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:47 am to rushball
Last year, Shack, Quinerly, and Ellis had to defer to Herb and Petty to be the go to guy in tight situations. I suspect that they will be much better this year knowing they are team leaders and go to players in close games. Also suspect that JD comes in believing he is a go to player, and I don't think Burnett or Gurley lack confidence either. Herb and Petty grew us to be a better team, but we have serious talent this year.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:23 am to AbSnopes
Herb was DPOY and Petty was the programs all time 3 point leader. Let's not act likr those guys weren't talented.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:24 am to AbSnopes
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Nate Oats shares his first impressions of Alabama's summer enrollees
All of Alabama’s newcomers are on campus, and they have impressed Crimson Tide coach Nate Oats in just a short time in Tuscaloosa, Ala., especially Furman transfer Noah Gurley.
“Noah’s looked unbelievable in practices this summer,” Oats said during an appearance on The Game on Tide 100.9 FM on Monday afternoon. “He’s gonna be really good for us.”
Gurley played in 88 career games, with 83 starts, across three seasons at Furman. In 2020-21, he started all 25 games and averaged 15.4 points, 2.5 assists and 5.8 rebounds on his way to earning second-team All-SoCon honors. Gurley averaged 26.0 points and 8.3 rebounds in his final four games, including a career-high 30 points in the season finale versus VMI.
The former Paladin is one of five players that joined the Alabama men’s basketball program this offseason, along with fellow transfer Nimari Burnett (Texas Tech) and a trio of freshmen that were all Top100 recruits in 2021 in JD Davison, Charles Bediako and Jusaun Holt. On Monday, Oats provided his early thoughts on the new additions after their first workouts.
“JD’s been as good or better than advertised,” Oats said. “He’s gonna be really good. He’s got great feel for the game. He can really pass. I think when you get him on a college roster with really good talent all around him where he’s got four great options to pass to, he can really make reads. I think he’s shown he’s definitely a point guard. I think he’s a guy that’s gonna play in the NBA as a point guard, and you can see it in practice. I’ve been really impressed with him.
“Noah Gurley, who we’ve talked about already, he’s been great. He’s a really athletic, skilled big that fits our system great. I think he can play multiple positions, really anywhere -- three, four or five. He’s looked good.
“Bediako, I think we measured him at 6-11 ¾. He’s 7-foot and long and athletic. He’s a guy we haven’t had here. You can throw lobs to, he’s a rim protector. He’s gonna be really good for us. Shoot, it still looks like he’s still growing, to be honest with you. He’s just long and lanky and he’s got a ton of upside.
“Jusaun Holt, he’s a shooter. He’s getting used to college pace. He’s gotta gain a little weight. He’s gonna be a guy that, as early as we were able to get guys here -- he literally graduated on a Saturday and was here the next day on Sunday to check in. So I think it’s gonna do him a lot of good to get in the weight room, put some weight on. He’s gotta get stronger, but he’s a great kid. I love him, and I think he’s gonna be really good for us.
“And then Nimari, Nimari’s a McDonald’s All-American that kind of came in with a chip on his shoulder. Kind of the same deal with (Jahvon) Quinerly when he came in and it didn’t work out as well as maybe everybody thought it would at Villanova. I think Nimari coming from Tech maybe didn’t work out as well as what other people thought, and he’s got a chip on his shoulder. We do a lot of shooting drills in the summer. He’s breaking records left and right with shooting drills. He can really shoot it. He’s shown he’s athletic. He’s got length. We measured his wingspan at like 6-8 ½, almost 6-9 at 6-4. So he’s got the upside to be the defender that we like, too.
“Those are the new guys that people really haven’t seen, and I think they’ve all got a chance to help us this year.”
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