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re: Some good points about Bob, article on RBR.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:10 am to PowHound
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:10 am to PowHound
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I guess BoB just forgot how to scheme them open because last season Jameson and Metchie were open all day every day.
BOB never schemed either open.
Those guys were basically just using their talent and Jamo was basically a cheat code putting so much pressure on secondaries.
I mean we literally beat Auburn because Bryce and Metchie ignored BOB's call a ran their own thing.
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Put Jameson, Metch, Waddle, and Devonta out there and I guess suddenly BoB would be an offensive savant.
No. He wouldn't because he is still going to run plays that expose out OL, he still not going to run plays that use out players abilities to their best and he still going to do dumb shite like going out of shotgun on 4th and less than a yard.
People have short memories.
Last year he did that same crap in goalline when we needed to score.
A year has passed and nothing has changed. He is just not a good playcaller or creative OC.
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:10 am to Tw1st3d
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Tw1st3d
Your breakdown stuff is always awesome, thanks man
Posted on 9/14/22 at 7:13 am to Robot Santa
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Jamo was a first round pick and Metchie might have been if not for his knee injury. You don't have to scheme open guys who can consistently get themselves open. We don't scheme anyone open in the sense that we rarely do much misdirection, pre-snap motion, bunch formations, play action, etc. that can force the defense out of position and create space for receivers who struggle to get that separation on their own.
Explain this slower for him. Maybe he will understand it.
It's weird he scripts throws to Gibbs out of the backfield, then forgets to do it the rest of the game even though it was effective.
Late in the game Sark starts doing it effectively to kill our QB pressure..
It's so crazy how one is so good and the other is so bad; even more so how some can actually see it and others are so blind they think you just need more players.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 8:28 am to Tw1st3d
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Here is a thought. Does Saban trust his #2 QB enough to put in a short yardage package with the #2 QB in a wildcat type set? Big, strong, great speed, and I would bet could go over the top behind 91. Also open a jump pass option to the TE if the D crowds the line too much.
This is my exact thoughts. Milroe is not afraid to lower his shoulder either.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:15 am to SummerOfGeorge
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SummerOfGeorge
A high school QB out of Athens, GA that was converted to a safety by Coach Bryant is the guy who taught me to break down film. His name... Jim Bob Harris.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:17 am to Tw1st3d
That's awesome. You may not have the time or want to make the effort (which is totally understandable), but a weekly summary of what you saw on tape or just on first viewing from each game would be awesome.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
I spent the last 40 years learning to watch the game as a fan rather than breaking the game down. My first view is flawed. When something sticks out I try to go back and understand what happened. When I do that, I will share what I think I have learned. Instead of a dedicated thread, I will try to stick it in a thread already talking about what may or may not be going on. Without a coaches cut, breaking down a game takes more time than I have to put into it on a regular basis.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:48 am to Tw1st3d
If you want to provide insight into how OL played each week without taking so much time, what if you focused on a quarter (1st quarter, 2nd quarter, etc) on whatever worked or didn't work.
For example, OL played well for 3 quarters... then 4th quarter we struggled. You can focus on the 4th quarter only.
For example, OL played well for 3 quarters... then 4th quarter we struggled. You can focus on the 4th quarter only.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:56 am to Tw1st3d
Awesome. Appreciate your point of view.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:06 am to Panthers4life
The 1st qtr and the rest of the game are not very connected in the BoB system. The 1st qtr tends to be the script they planned and practiced all week. The rest of the game is D&D Roulette from BoB's play sheet. There appears to be very little play stacking in the way he calls a game.
The last half of the 4th qtr tends to be either back-ups getting "practice" or 2 minute drill plays that were practiced all week.
1st qtr and 2 minute drill are both scripted structures that were practiced. Everything else just does not flow together so it is hard to break down into anything that makes much sense.
The last half of the 4th qtr tends to be either back-ups getting "practice" or 2 minute drill plays that were practiced all week.
1st qtr and 2 minute drill are both scripted structures that were practiced. Everything else just does not flow together so it is hard to break down into anything that makes much sense.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:33 am to Tw1st3d
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1) OL up the middle and LT. G/C/G - Tx used the Auburn slant that gave us so much trouble several years ago. The slant was toward the predictable play side and pass downs toward the TE. Center turns his shoulders and gets pushed into the guard
I agree and what makes its worst is how slow 71 is out of his stance. But you can tell that 54,70,55 (who is in better condition than last year) and Laythem are all much quicker than our center a snap.But still as a total O-line they are a little slow with the pop on initial contact after snap.
They also are coming out of there stance on run/pass plays way to high losing arm power leverage at snap.Also we need to not run anything with the center pulling because 71 is just to slow moving lateral.It would be ok if his large base was a factor like (brown was in the past on run plays, but he loses some battles there. Now once 71 get some momentum down hill he is effective and it may be why adjusting to slant D-line is a problem.
Note-Shout out to the Kid Moody at LB who's a liitle undersized but playing bigtime!.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 10:35 am
Posted on 9/14/22 at 12:49 pm to YStar
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Jamo was a first round pick and Metchie might have been if not for his knee injury. You don't have to scheme open guys who can consistently get themselves open. We don't scheme anyone open in the sense that we rarely do much misdirection, pre-snap motion, bunch formations, play action, etc. that can force the defense out of position and create space for receivers who struggle to get that separation on their own.
Jamo was a first round pick and Metchie might have been if not for his knee injury. You don't have to scheme open guys who can consistently get themselves open. We don't scheme anyone open in the sense that we rarely do much misdirection, pre-snap motion, bunch formations, play action, etc. that can force the defense out of position and create space for receivers who struggle to get that separation on their own.
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Explain this slower for him.
that was MY POINT ALL ALONG.
Bama has always needed elite talent. Its not the Xs and Os its the Jimmy and Joes.
There is no coordinator that can scheme to an undefeated season and title with shite talent because he is so wildly creative - at the end of the day you gotta be able to WIN YOUR BOX
How have you read my post in this thread and not understood my point has been its about the jimmy and joes not the Xs and Os ?
You are dense AzF.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 2:57 pm to YStar
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We have NFL talent all around our offense and people say we need even more just to run a consistent offense.
No.
We don't need every position to have first round picks starting for us to move the ball consistently against Texas.
FFS
This. So much this. This offense is talented enough to score at least 30 on anyone. Anyone.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:35 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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This. So much this. This offense is talented enough to score at least 30 on anyone. Anyone.
Most of us understand that lol.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 3:37 pm to Tw1st3d
Thanks for spelling all of this out. I have been banging the same drum but people tend to not like my delivery 
The saddest part is the hope. The hope BOB will change but he had an entire off-season and hasn't.
We need an intervention. Hopefully that comes un the form of a new offensive addition taking over plans and calls.
The saddest part is the hope. The hope BOB will change but he had an entire off-season and hasn't.
We need an intervention. Hopefully that comes un the form of a new offensive addition taking over plans and calls.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 4:08 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Ystar is correct. We have the talent to score more than 20 on Texas... we just don't have a competent OC that knows college football. Some people understand this. others have crimson glasses on and don't want to see it. The rest just don't understand and simply like the wins, regardless of how its done.
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:07 pm to YStar
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People have short memories
No doubt.
Youve already forgotten the Alabama QB won the Heisman for first time in history last year.
BoB was OC... the OL sucked, and we had 1 RB - it was all thanks to having 2 elite WRs and 1 elite QB.
You think you know so much about football, but you dont seem to understand how critical it is to stretch the field. BoB should just scheme a way to take the top off the D, eh ? Scheme a way to get these young WRs to sit down in zone coverage. Scheme a way to get WRs to catch balls that hit their hands.
Im at a total loss people think not having a single day 1 guy on the OL or at WR should impact the quality of the offense. Lol
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:03 pm to PowHound
Is it not part of coach Boob's job to recruit talent for his offense? He's also the wr coach... Is their quality of play not a reflection on him?
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 10:09 pm
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:13 pm to bogeypro
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Is it not part of coach Boob's job to recruit talent for his offense?
Historically, the OC really only recruits the QBs and local recruits. There are exceptions, Locksley was a good recruiter because of his DMV ties.
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He's also the wr coach... Is their quality of play not a reflection on him?
Holmon Wiggins is the WR Coach?
Posted on 9/14/22 at 11:29 pm to PowHound
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You think you know so much about football, but you dont seem to understand how critical it is to stretch the field.
I actually do and thi statement is hilarious considering BOB did nothing to stretch the field last Saturday besides late developing curling routes.
We took no shots downfield, no attempts to put pressure on their DBs to cause them to make a mistake.
Anyways, I really need to just stop. I'm the only one giving you attention. Everyone else just agrees with me or regurgitated my exact points and avoided you.
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