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re: SOG Predictor - #5 Georgia (4-1) vs #8 Florida (3-1)

Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:26 pm to
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:26 pm to
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but I think if somehow the USC kid took the UGA job and was able to stretch the field some they could be scary against us, especially in a Round 2 scheme defensively and us without Waddle.


Daniels wasn't exactly elite at USC. In fact he was pretty crappy. Admittedly he was a freshman though. In any event I think Bennett is Kirby’s new ride or die now that Fromm is gone anyway so it doesn't matter.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:29 pm to
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Daniels wasn't exactly elite at USC. In fact he was pretty crappy. Admittedly he was a freshman though. In any event I think Bennett is Kirby’s new ride or die now that Fromm is gone anyway so it doesn't matter.



Yea, at this point, Daniels is either not good or he's still not back to trusting his knee. Either way, it feels too late in the season (especially post-bye week) to see him emerge. I think round 2 any advantage they have via Waddle went is matched by us growing as a defense in the front 7 (and getting guys like Smith/Burroughs on the field more).

I'm probably off but Florida just doesn't scare me because I don't think their offense is terrifying elite level good (like say, Ohio State) and they can't stop us.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 6:30 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:39 pm to
Yeah I agree. I can't stand Kirby and want to see him fail, but objectively I also think a match up with Florida is better for us than a re-match with UGA. Grantham is terrible. Sark would make him look stupid. They'd score more than UGA but I don't see us punting much in that game.
This post was edited on 11/2/20 at 6:39 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 6:56 pm to
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Yeah I agree. I can't stand Kirby and want to see him fail, but objectively I also think a match up with Florida is better for us than a re-match with UGA. Grantham is terrible. Sark would make him look stupid. They'd score more than UGA but I don't see us punting much in that game.



Yep - Kirby can teach and scheme defense, and if he gets an entire set of film of his defense vs us that he can work from (especially removing Waddle), he will find ways to do some things. Would it be enough? I don't think so, not with their offense, but he'd give us some trouble.

Florida cannot do that on defense. Like you said, Sark would eat him alive. And if you can't stop us, you don't scare me unless you have an all-world offense. And while I think their offense is very good, it's not quite that level.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 7:52 pm to
I agree. I think it's better to add a win over UF to our resumé than UGA again. Plus, UF beating UGA should help lead to more parity the SEC East. I think/hope UF beats UGA on Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/4/20 at 10:44 am
Posted by CrimsonBoz
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 8:56 pm to
I’m leaning UF in this game. I think they can score and with UGA missing some key players it seems to favor them.

However, as mentioned. If UGA slow rolls and runs the rock. It could be a W if UF isn’t perfect on offense.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 1:51 pm to
I didn’t expect to find this on the Bama board.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 2:07 pm to
These last 6 quarters of football as a Georgia fan have been extremely frustrating.

I don’t get WTF we are doing with Stetson. In his first 3 games plus the first half of the Bama game, we did a good job of complementing the run with a balance passing attack.

When we came out in the 2nd half, it was like we were down 20. We were running the ball with a pretty high success rate, but it seemed like we had Stetson dropping back 80% of the time, even when we had the lead.

Despite an understandable bad game against Bama, I still was confident he could be a serviceable QB. I only thought 1.5 of the 3 INTs against Bama were really within his control. He had great games against Auburn and Tennessee. I expected us to move to more back to a 50/50 running/passing attack against Kentucky. However, we almost never let him pass the ball, and when we did, it was routes that he struggled with such as the underneath throws and back shoulder ones. Stetson has been borderline incredible this year when throwing intermediate passes in the middle of the field (basically the opposite of Fromm), yet we still focused on underneath and sideline stuff.

Normally, you want a QB prone to turning the ball over to favor underneath and sideline routes, but Stetson is just so much better down the middle.

His 5 INTs this year:

- 2 at LOS
- 2 at sideline
- 1 on tipped ball.

I thought the approach we used in the first 3 games would be perfect for our team this year. Monken called 14 straight quarters perfectly. This last game against Kentucky had Kirby’s fingerprints all over it.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 3:37 pm to
I think the batted ball at the LOS thing terrifies Monken and Kirby, which is why they aren't throwing intermediate passes to the middle anymore (2nd half vs Bama or UK game).

It's a maddening situation for them because, like you said, his best skill as a passer is probably throwing those crossers and tight end drags. But a guy like Kirby is not going to sign off on those throws if every 7th one is a possible field changing turnover, and every batted ball at the line has the possibility of going back the other way for 6 points.
This post was edited on 11/3/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:06 pm to
The most frustrating thing is that most of his bad qualities are easily fixable. Obviously not his height, but other things. He has a serious issue with double clutching/hesitating on the deep ball. He can throw it pretty far but he waits so long the receiver is already 60 yards downfield.

He’s basically a one read QB. Maybe two. When his first WR is open he’s extremely accurate and makes good throws (see 80 yard TD to Cook vs Bama). Any sort of hesitation and he’s in trouble. At least he can scramble, but he did very little of that against UK.

That Kentucky game was the most vanilla offensive game Georgia has had since Fromm’s first few games as a starter. Against Bama we let him throw it like he was Patrick Mahomes, against Kentucky it was like he had never played football in his life.

We need to find a balance, because the run-heavy offense we used against Kentucky does not play all that well to his game. I thought we found that balance against Tennessee and Auburn, but apparently the coaches didn’t think so. He’s kind of a streaky QB, and I’ve noticed he does not play well at all during his first possession of the half. He needs to throw it a good bit to start to find his groove, which you definitely saw in the first half against Bama.
This post was edited on 11/3/20 at 4:10 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:10 pm to
Yea - I think it's pretty simple with Bennett: He's gotta be in good situations. That isn't easy, but that's what you sign up for as an OC. Bennett needs to be in 2nd and 6, 3rd and 4 for most of the game. If Georgia can do that, Bennett can be pretty successful (see Auburn, Tennessee, and 1st half of Bama).

When Bennett is in 2nd and 8 and 3rd and 7........he not only doesn't move the ball, he starts trying to force it and makes turnovers.

That was the biggest key to the 1st game for me, and it's a huge key to the game with Florida IMHO.
Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:26 pm to
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When Bennett is in 2nd and 8 and 3rd and 7........he not only doesn't move the ball, he starts trying to force it and makes turnovers.


Believe it or not, I remember seeing a tweet that he had some ungodly QB Rating number through his first 3 games on 3rd and 8 or longer. He was completing like 80% of his passes and the rating was like 186.0 or something. Obviously he’s been terrible in that situation in the last two games.

Given his personality, I feel like the real problem is that he always feels like he needs to prove himself. He seemed to go into panic mode as soon as Waddle scored the 90 yard TD to go up. Against Kentucky he probably realized the coaching staff didn’t trust him as much anymore and tried to do too much when he was allowed to pass. Reminds me of playing career mode in the NCAA games. I was the backup QB my freshman year so i was the holder on XPs and FGs. I’d always audible to a fake FG to get my passing attributes up.

Yeah but overall, I think Georgia needs to have more trust in him than we did against Kentucky to have a successful season. I also wish we’d let him scramble more. Fromm liked to scramble his freshman year and was ok at it but Kirby shut that down quick.

ETA: Apparently the same thing happened with Mathis in practice. They said he looked really good in the last two weeks of practice but ever since he got benched he’s been trying to hit ridiculous throws to prove himself and is getting intercepted instead. “Insiders” say that if Mathis had even been average in practice he would’ve replaced Stetson on Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/3/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Kcstills17
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:28 pm to
We sacked dak 9 times in 2015 when we were on the road. They were still good but it wasn't the number 1 ranked team
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:43 pm to
Now do the election, SOG.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:46 pm to
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Now do the election, SOG.



Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:51 pm to
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Georgia's defense is slightly above average. Georgia's defense is elite.


Posted by diddlydawg7
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 4:52 pm to
SOG is a Kanye supporter if I’ve ever seen one
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 5:03 pm to
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JustGetItRight


Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 11/3/20 at 5:04 pm to
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SOG is a Kanye supporter if I’ve ever seen one





Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/4/20 at 10:09 am to
I don't think UGA is explosive enough to win this game. Trask and those playmakers are going to put up some points.
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