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re: Prediction: There won’t be a QB controversy next season

Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:25 pm to
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:25 pm to
This is his future. His livelihood and his family’s security at stake. If you think he’s going to sit for two more years while Jalen effectively runs a wildcat, your mistaken.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5674 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 2:59 pm to
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If u think we won in spite of JH this year then there's no sense discussing it. His play won the previous 2 SEC games . Everybody is flipping out over 1 loss. Bottom line is with a fully healthy defense that can get off the field we'd be getting ready for Georgia. It's a blessing though in a way because we re seeing the fair weathers coming out of the wood work.


You blame the defense for a loss in a game where the offense managed 14 points. That's just absurd. They played well enough to win, especially given how many plays they were on the field and how often our offense gave Auburn good field position. When you only score two touchdowns, you will almost always lose. Hurts did not lose this game alone, but he certainly contributed to the loss in a big way. Some of you people will blame anyone else, no matter the circumstance.

And for the love of Christ, it's not fair weather to critique the team you root for. That's part and parcel of being a fan and, in fact, I'd wager anything that Saban prefers fans who are almost never content. He's all about improvement and avoiding complacency, not saying "We lost, but at least it was a good effort by our boys!"

If you think being a fan means blindly heaping praise on every player and coach affiliated with the team no matter the circumstance, I'd suggest you and anyone else who feels that way should stick to TideFans.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38728 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:11 pm to

O line is the weaker link to me personally and has been for multiple years. Kiffin never got enough credit for doing what he did with the offensive lines he had


I disagree. Our offensive philosophy makes our OL look bad. How many times on short yardage (hell, even 1st & 10) do we go out of the shotgun with our OLinemen back on their heels? Then we have to wait for the snap 6 yds deep with our RB waiting at a dead stop for the handoff and we're surprised that the DLinemen are getting penetration? We constantly set up our OL for failure.
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:21 pm to
No we just have some whiney fans who overreact. We lost..It happens but the blame doesn't fall on one person or one unit. It was a 20-14 game going to the 4th quarter. We didn't execute well enough to win and that includes jalen. But throwing him under the bus or giving up on the program isn't the answer either
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:27 pm to
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I'd suggest you and anyone else who feels that way should stick to TideFans.


Never understood the attitude over there. I understand a board must be montored, but those guys are like the East German secret police constantly uncovering thought crimes.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Huddie Leadbetter
Member since May 2016
3822 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:42 pm to
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giving up on the program isn't the answer either




Contraire, Pierre. It's the fact that we want better for the program that we even give a damn. Right now, with Saban and the players that his staff have recruited, the goal should be a national championship. Soon enough UA will be just another team vying for a conference title and the chance for a playoff. It is highly unlikely that Hurts is ever going to be the QB that can do that, but there is a guy on the bench that just may be that good.
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 3:48 pm to
I think Tua could extend this Dynasty and give it a second wind. Maybe I’m wrong, but I firmly believe it.

People talk about a weaker defense next year. But if Bama could get our physicality back with the running game, and have a truely dangerous passing QB, we might actually see Saban’s best team.

A lot is riding on the qb related decisions this off season. I really think it will make or break us and Saban’s remaining tenure.
This post was edited on 11/26/17 at 3:49 pm
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:18 pm to
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If u think we won in spite of JH this year then there's no sense discussing it. His play won the previous 2 SEC games . Everybody is flipping out over 1 loss. Bottom line is with a fully healthy defense that can get off the field we'd be getting ready for Georgia. It's a blessing though in a way because we re seeing the fair weathers coming out of the wood work.


You've got it backwards. Our defense is on the field too much because we can't sustain drives with Hurts under center. Look at the # of 3 and outs.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
55846 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:25 pm to
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You've got it backwards. Our defense is on the field too much because we can't sustain drives with Hurts under center. Look at the # of 3 and outs.



You've both got it wrong. Both units were awful on third downs. Their struggles were exclusive. It was a complete team loss.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24290 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:31 pm to
The defense just isn't at an elite level that allows mediocre play from the QB. We've gotten away with it twice in 09 and 15, but this year's defense just isn't there at that level. They're serviceable, but that's it. In order to win with that defense we need outstanding QB play and we hoped Jalen would turn the corner, but he didn't.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24290 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 6:34 pm to
Tua is young, but his ability in passing opens up so much more offensively. It is easier for upper tier defenses to key in on the offense if the offense can't get them off balance. With the pass threat being minimal at best yesterday, all Auburn had to do is lock in on the run. Our O-line did miss plenty of blocks though
Posted by oneusairman
somewhereville
Member since Apr 2009
569 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:20 pm to
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Although he sucked lastnight everyone is quick to forget how many games he’s won us as a starter. We aren’t in the hunt last year or this year without him. His legs and cool demeanor have made up for his lack of passing up until lastnight. Play calling and dumb mistakes sure didn’t help out. With that being said I agree I think he is the weakest link on offense and wished we had a better passing game.


Not trying to flame but you kinda answered your own questions or statement in your post. Also I hate it when people say look how many games he won for us. How many of those games did he actually win himself? We have great defense, offense and he has some great talent around him. John Parker Wilson may have been able to win as much as him but does that mean he should be our qb?
Posted by oneusairman
somewhereville
Member since Apr 2009
569 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:25 pm to
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No we just have some whiney fans who overreact. We lost..It happens but the blame doesn't fall on one person or one unit. It was a 20-14 game going to the 4th quarter. We didn't execute well enough to win and that includes jalen. But throwing him under the bus or giving up on the program isn't the answer either


No one is throwing him under the bus. The dude is just not a qb and that's a fact. He will never make an nfl roster as a qb and the sooner everyone realizes that the better it is for everyone involved.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 7:49 pm to
Or does our oline force us to use more misdirection because they can't get enough push, etc. it's kind of a chicken or the egg thing and a tough question to try and answer.
Posted by Bamainva40
Member since Nov 2017
1677 posts
Posted on 11/26/17 at 8:12 pm to
So if jalen isn't a QB in some of your eyes what should his role be on the team?
Posted by TitleTown
Alabama
Member since Sep 2012
45 posts
Posted on 11/27/17 at 8:33 am to
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Tua isn’t leaving and it would be a dumb move regardless. They traveled 6-7000 miles to come to Alabama and he committed in part because his parents really like the Christian atmosphere of the place they live at



This. This is what people miss. If you watched any of his recruitment or even his announcement you will hear that the strong Christian presence is what had a major factor in his commitment. Glad im not the only one who says this in alot of Tua leaving threads. Cheers.

Anyone can youtube his commitment and see.
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