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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:57 am to
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16162 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:57 am to
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They are as they are practicing their right to speak by telling everyone to stay out.


That's what they CANNOT do - tell people to stay out or in of their county. Free passage is guaranteed above even the other things.

I have (had) close family on Sand Mountain, AL. I understand it well but that doesn't make it right or legal.

Same thing for the states putting up checkpoints at their border and trying to keep people from coming in from other states. They're one federal lawsuit from taking it up the arse.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:57 am to
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Granny might even have a remedy that work


She did it was called white medicine or as others would know it as moonshine. When I was teething as a baby you would get a sugar tit or a little bit of the white rubbed on the gums. Home made peach brandy for a sore throat when young and dandelion wine/tea for the flu. Which is probably what many are drinking now if they have the symptoms.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83941 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:59 am to
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When the mod gets involved in the political posts, this thread is doomed.


Hey buddy, all I said was our government would have been able to pay more attention to this situation back in December, January and early February if they hadn't been consumed with partisan political bullcrap.

That's the truth.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:00 am to
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UAB Hospital is testing a new potential treatment for coronavirus on some of its sickest patients.

For the study, patients who are unable to breathe on their own and attached to mechanical ventilators are given a gas called nitric oxide, which is produced naturally by the human body and can help stimulate the lungs.

Inhaled nitric oxide is currently an FDA-approved treatment for newborn patients who have trouble breathing on their own, and doctors believe it may also help those suffering lung damage from COVID-19.

The trial builds on research conducted during the SARS epidemic of 2002-2003, when doctors found that not only did the nitric oxide gas help improve SARS patients’ lung functions, the gas also displayed some anti-viral properties.

UAB and Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston have already begun enrolling patients and LSU Health Shreveport will begin soon.

Other hospitals in Massachusetts and internationally are also participating but are not as far along in the process.

Clinical trials like this one usually take months to set up, but the doctors praised the efforts of UAB colleagues and federal authorities to get this one moving quickly.

UAB testing new coronavirus treatment on its sickest patients
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:04 am to
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hat's what they CANNOT do - tell people to stay out or in of their county. Free passage is guaranteed above even the other thing


Please provide a link on where the first amendment guarantees the right of free passage.

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Same thing for the states putting up checkpoints at their border and trying to keep people from coming in from other states. They're one federal lawsuit from taking it up the arse.


Big difference as the federal government does control commerce(only) between states, not people traveling for personal use. But what happens within the confines of the states such as a county government doing as mentioned is not within the jurisdiction of the US government but the state government. But I will not digress anymore on that as I am sure(will look) they are not preventing essential business regarding food and health from entering just outsiders that have no business there whatsoever.

The one federal lawsuit I am familiar with, at least here, is because people want to get to their vacation homes and they will never when that fight during this virus especially when states have already granted certain powers during a declaration of emergency and disaster.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:04 am to
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Hey buddy, all I said was our government would have been able to pay more attention to this situation back in December, January and early February if they hadn't been consumed with partisan political bullcrap.

That's the truth.




No it's not, it's an opinion that gives them cover for not being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. The impeachment didn't distract our president from holding at least a dozen campaign rallies and log multiple rounds of golf.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:09 am to
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When the mod gets involved in the political posts, this thread is doomed. It's been a very good thread on this forum specifically about Alabama coronavirus issues, but now it's turned into a spewing of personal political views that have ZERO to do with this thread. I've requested that a new thread be started just for those type posts and let the posters vent their opinions there and leave this thread to be the informative one


Sorry I have tried to add information moreso from outside the area as it pertains to the virus since I do not live in AL and may see information here that others might want. In regards to the political view I will try and stay out of that as I have not pushed my views(I really have none to be honest) just replied to those that make every attempt to push theirs.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83941 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:10 am to
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The impeachment didn't distract our president from holding at least a dozen campaign rallies and log multiple rounds of golf.


I wasn't talking about the President though. In fact, I didn't mention him at all.

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Imagine how much attention the rest of the government could have given this virus if they weren't dead set on continuing that farce of an impeachment.


I specifically said "the rest of the government." You know, the ones who spent thousands of hours putting together an impeachment proceeding that was absolutely destined to fail and they knew it. But, they still did it anyway.

Hence, the farce comment. Everyone knew it was going to be a waste of time and resources.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 9:16 am
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
66950 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:16 am to
Just create another thread to speak truths. I am okay with people posting truth/opinions.
I don't think anyone would want to clutter up an in game thread with political comments, the same I'd hope would apply in this thread.
The same applies to this thread. There is no limit on the number of threads that can be started, so why not create a separate one concerning political views?
Don't take it personal, I'm not mad, it just means I have to thumb through more posts to get to pertinent ones.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:29 am to
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I specifically said "the rest of the government."



The federal agencies that would have been the ones to respond had no involvement in the impeachment.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
32910 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:37 am to
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Alabama began paying the $600 FPUC stimulus benefit last night. More than $40 million was paid out yesterday. Click the link the see the news release.
LINK


This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 9:39 am
Posted by paperwasp
2x HRV 2025 Poster of the Year
Member since Sep 2014
29451 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:38 am to
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The total number of global cases has surpassed 1.5 million, including more than 88,000 fatalities. Nearly 330,000 patients are reported to have recovered.

• US reports nearly 2,000 deaths for the second day in a row
• UK lockdown process under review as death toll rises
• UK Prime Minister’s condition “improving” after third night in intensive care
• Number of cases in Spain surpass 150,000 mark
• Sub-Saharan Africa to fall into recession for the first time in 25 years, the World Bank said in new forecast
• Australia to evacuate stranded citizens in Peru, South Africa and Argentina
• Brazil reports largest daily increase in cases
• France to extend nationwide lockdown
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11868 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:02 am to
Despite the bad news/numbers, we ARE making progress. Every day, we are figuring out new ways to attack this thing and support patients like the nitric oxide treatment. We aren’t in the clear yet but things like survival rates should be improving daily. The key is to disseminate the info and weed out the good from the bad. I read where they’ve figured out patients do better resting on their stomachs.

Take this one with a grain of salt since it came from Facebook but supposedly Dr. Oz looked at insurance records and of 14,000 records looked at of people taking Hydroxychloroquine for lupus, ZERO have tested positive.

There’s also a proposed mechanism of action for hydroxychloroquine. It is well established now that COVID attacks hemoglobin in the blood and ejects the heme molecules from hemoglobin rendering it useless to transport oxygen. This free floating heme is actually very oxidative and damaging and is causing the organ damage to other systems since it overwhelms the body’s anti_oxidant systems. It also accounts for the high ferritin blood tests that are an early telltale of active infection. The coronavirus kicks out the heme and attaches itself to the hemoglobin and commandeers the cell to replicate itself. Malaria similarly attacks hemoglobin but actually eats the heme from the hemoglobin. Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine binds to the receptors on the hemoglobin that the coronavirus does. It blocks the virus from attaching, preventing it from replicating. Then the immune system takes over and eliminates it.

That’s a reason I take issue with Faucci and others who were so against recommending it. I understand the need for caution and not raising false hope and the dangers of side effects and unintended consequences better than most being in healthcare and having seen some well intentioned errors. But when we’ve got nothing else and nearly ALL the “anecdotal” data is telling you it’s working, maybe you should say proceed with caution, but proceed. What other choice do we have??
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:19 am to
Yep. Here's a good article about how it attacks hemoglobin. Imo, everyone who can safely take it who tests positive should be promptly treated with hydroxychloroquine. The sooner the better.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 10:31 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16162 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:21 am to
About to social distance in my kayak. Look up Saenz vs Roe.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83941 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:25 am to
I hope you don't live in Mississippi.

A few counties there shut down all public waterways.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11868 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:27 am to
Surge, I totally agree. But here locally, hardly anyone yet qualifies to get tested. And in an effort to conserve our supply of hydroxychloroquine, the pharmacy chains like CVS, Walgreens, and Publix have stopped filling prescriptions for hydroxychloroquine without either a previous history of taking it for lupus or a positive test. So it’s a catch 22. It’s well intentioned since there has been way too many prescribers that just want to hand it out like candy or are writing for large quantities for themselves or family members so they had to shut it off. But it’s also preventing legitimate treatments.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13187 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:27 am to
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About to social distance in my kayak


My wife and daughter did that yesterday. My daughter turned 11 in the fall and that was one of her presents was a kayak.

Today the kids are enjoying the additions of a 50', 75', and 100' zip lines added to our woods that already has multiple slack lines, tree climbing, ninja lines, and other obstacles. The virus has provided me time to finish these projects so some positive to it.

Enjoy the time on the water.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:34 am to
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Holy frick. I'm done.


The only thing pville hates more than America are folks who gives refs a hard time
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:39 am to
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Also several counties have locked their county down with checkpoints and barricades preventing anyone from leaving or entering.

I don’t like this at all.
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