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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)
Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:56 pm to Robot Santa
Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:56 pm to Robot Santa
It was still going on as of December: LINK
Huckabee and co. put all those signs up while the litigation is pending.
Huckabee and co. put all those signs up while the litigation is pending.
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:58 pm to JustGetItRight
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totally unrelated aside - his place is on Blue Mountain and is VERY nice
I thought it looked very out of place, but it’s been 12 or so years since I was down there. I’d imagine there has been more construction since my last visit and it maybe doesn’t look so out of place now. We stayed next door to it while it was being built one year.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:07 pm to The Spleen
It is/was the biggest kid on the block for sure. The last time we were down there was right after it was built. The whole area was undergoing more construction. There were property owners getting pissed off because people that once had an unobstructed view of the gulf were now enjoying unobstructed views of the neighbor's living room.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:18 pm to mre
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It was still going on as of December: LINK
Huckabee and co. put all those signs up while the litigation is pending
Good to know. I had known about the lawsuit and just assumed the signs meant they had won. From what I was told they basically want the courts to declare that they own everything down to the tide line, meaning that if someone really wants to be an a-hole about it they could post full time security to basically prevent anyone from just walking down the beach at or around high tide.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:23 pm to phil4bama
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But the catch 22 is testing is still hard to qualify for so how do you get a positive test? If they wait till you are hospitalized, it's a race against the clock whether it helps or not. If you are already ventilated, probably too late.
Testing is actually hard to come by. We went through it when I first got sick. Even when my daughter and son in law got back from Washington state and felt sick they were told they didn't qualify for testing even though they flew in from Seattle a week prior. They were just told to stay home for two weeks and call then if they were still showing symptoms. When I visited they got me sick and then I got my wife and two kids sick at home. When we were first showing symptoms we called the local doctor doing testing and had to leave a message. Then a nurse calls you with a short interview. If she deems it necessary, she then has a doctor call you back with another interview and only then are you able to take the test if he thinks you were at risk and deserving. We went and got swabbed and told it would be a few days. I took a turn for the worse before our results ever came back plus we already knew we all had it regardless. I just needed proof because when I told my boss I was quarantining myself he accused me of making it up and taking advantage of a loophole just to get out of work.
But yeah, this is the case throughout the country in most parts. The number of infected likely far outweighs the numbers we see reported because they are so afraid of running out of tests that simply aren't testing a lot of folks that really should be tested.
About the hydroxychloroquine, I was only being treated with nasal oxygen mask and antiviral meds the first two or three days with no improvement. When I started the hydroxychloroquine I started rapidly improving after a few days of no improvement. So it either saved my life or my body just started miraculously kicking its arse at the same time and it was just a coincidence that I got better while taking it. Maybe it was a placebo but either way here I am. I think it worked and probably saved my life.
Regardless, testing sucked then I think it sucks now. I have no problem sending folks back to work soon and continue the social distancing but we need testing to improve imo.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:25 pm to Robot Santa
According to the owner we rented from down there, Huckabee did sometimes use security guards to keep people from walking on the beach in front of his house. Owner also said he was only there a few times a year. This was around 2006 or 2007.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 2:47 pm to The Spleen
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According to the owner we rented from down there, Huckabee did sometimes use security guards to keep people from walking on the beach in front of his house. Owner also said he was only there a few times a year. This was around 2006 or 2007.
How far in the water would I need to be in order to just stand, facing his house drinking a cold one?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:36 pm to Bama323_15
Per current state laws, you can only own down to the mean high tide line. The state owns beyond this line in a public trust.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:43 pm to phil4bama
The testing is the part that is really the bottleneck right now. Truth be told, if we had the means to quickly test everyone, we could end this stay at home bullshite for most. High risk would still have to follow the social distancing stuff, but with easy, plentiful testing and hydroxychloroquine, we could probably make do and get the economy and life going to some small degree. It would be better than it is now anyway.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:54 pm to Commander Data
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But yeah, this is the case throughout the country in most parts. The number of infected likely far outweighs the numbers we see reported because they are so afraid of running out of tests that simply aren't testing a lot of folks that really should be tested.
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Coronavirus traces found in Massachusetts wastewater at levels far higher than expected
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Coronavirus was detected in Massachusetts sewage at higher levels than expected, suggesting there are many more undiagnosed patients than previously known, according to a new study.
Researchers from biotech startup Biobot Analytics collected samples from a wastewater facility for an unnamed metropolitan area in late March, according to a report Tuesday on medRxiv.
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“Even if those viral particles are no longer active or capable of infecting humans, they may still carry genetic material that can be detected using an approach called PCR (polymerase chain reaction), which amplifies the genetic signal many orders of magnitude, creating billions of copies of the genome for each starting virus,” Alm told the outlet.
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The researchers, along with a team from Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Harvard, and Brigham and Women’s Hospital, analyzed the samples and found the number of coronavirus particles equated with 2,300 people being infected with the virus.
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But at the time of tests, there were only 446 confirmed cases in the region, according to the study.
NY Post
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:11 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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Jonathan Hardison
@FOX6Hardison
NEW: UAB has 40 inpatients with confirmed #COVID19 cases, down from 62 last Friday. UAB Spokesperson "While this is good news, we as a state cannot afford to slip up now. We need Alabamians to continue to understand the significance of the position we are in right now."
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:29 pm to The Spleen
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I thought it looked very out of place, but it’s been 12 or so years since I was down there. I’d imagine there has been more construction since
A ton. Me and my family build in Watercolor, Seaside, Blue Mountain etc. it’s gotten to the point where the extremely wealthy buy an older expensive home and we bulldoze it and build their home.
I actually just did it off of 395 by Seaside.
Crazy stuff.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:33 pm to phil4bama
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Per current state laws, you can only own down to the mean high tide line. The state owns beyond this line in a public trust.
So what exactly are they trying to change then?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 4:55 pm to CrimsonBoz
Yeah, I was just looking on Google Earth and looks completely different than when I was there last time. There were still a few of the old school cinder block beach houses there then. Looks like all mansions down that stretch now.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:22 pm to CrimsonBoz
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ton. Me and my family build in Watercolor, Seaside, Blue Mountain etc. it’s gotten to the point where the extremely wealthy buy an older expensive home and we bulldoze it and build their home.
I remember when there was nothing b/t Destin and PCB
I can remember when there wasn't shite in Destin
Posted on 4/10/20 at 5:59 pm to phil4bama
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Per current state laws, you can only own down to the mean high tide line. The state owns beyond this line in a public trust.
This right here and why the panhandle especially is having major issues with erosion. This is a major issue on a lot of the beaches how that the MHTL has moved due to erosion. I read about a law suit where someone who owned beachfront property was suing because due to erosion from hurricanes the new MHTL was at the steps of their deck. People were basically hanging out right by their backdoor and nothing they could do about it.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:00 pm to TideWarrior
If I recall, the Covid tracker stopped at 999, 1999, and now it's at 2999
weird
weird
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:02 pm to Robot Santa
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Per current state laws, you can only own down to the mean high tide line. The state owns beyond this line in a public trust.
So what exactly are they trying to change then?
Sounds like the locals and Huckabee and his hotty toddy neighbors are having a pissing contest over the recommendations to stay at home.
LINK
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:13 pm to JustGetItRight
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I strongly suspect that the folks suing in North Carolina because they're being denied the right to occupy a home they own are going to win. They're being denied the right to travel freely between the states for no reason than "y'all ain't from around here, is ya?" There's case law dating from the 1820s to the 1990s that says that's not allowed.
They will not win. No one is denying them access to NC or preventing travel freely between the states. No one is depriving them of a place to live just not granting them access to a vacation home on a beach which no one in the state can use. No federal law is being violated.
This is why I find lawyers so entertaining.
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'If not enjoined by this Court, Dare County will continue to discriminate against the Plaintiffs, and deprive them of their Constitutional rights. The Plaintiffs will suffer irreparable injury due to this deprivation of Constitutional rights.'
What injury?
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:18 pm to phil4bama
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Sounds like the locals and Huckabee and his hotty toddy neighbors are having a pissing contest over the recommendations to stay at home.
I was talking about the lawsuit over being able to kick people off.
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