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re: Old School Prediction Model - Kentucky (6-3, 3-3) vs #8 Alabama (8-1, 6-0) (now with V2.0)

Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:43 pm to
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
20153 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 7:43 pm to
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I have a really hard time seeing them score 24 on our defense.


Don’t talk back to Daddy SoG and his model ;)

JK I agree.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
20560 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 8:10 pm to
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The only games we gave up > 3.0 YPA were games where the QB ran via scramble or designed non-RPO run + State. USF : 3.85 State : 4.40 Tennessee: 3.50 LSU: 8.58 And we've shut down some really, really good run units. Texas : 2.84 Ole Miss : 1.93 A&M : 1.91 Arky : 2.78

I bet if you were to exclude QB run numbers from the YPC totals we would be close to off the charts because no one has run effectively between the tackles on us all year. *cough Georgia*
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
4298 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 8:11 pm to
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Don’t talk back to Daddy SoG and his model ;)

JK I agree.


Lol I would never. His updated model seems more like what I was expecting.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
21152 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 10:24 pm to
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On the flip side, I think their pass offense has a higher ceiling than their stats show. Leary and their WRs were great against Tennessee, but that has not been the norm. If he plays normal, they are gonna struggle to move the ball. If he plays like the Tennessee game, they could make some plays. They have good WRs.

What's your accuracy with predictions this year? Last week's for LSU (Bama 40 LSU 35) was pretty close.

As for this QB, even when UK was getting 11 YPC vs UF, he struggled to hit wide open receivers with little pressure. I know trashcan quarterbacks always seem to have their best games against us, but I can't see this guy stepping up if their run game isn't working.

Really interested to see if 'Bama continues to build from the past two games or puts it on cruise control and pisses Saban off.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4959 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:38 am to
I'm curious if the model is based on the personnel who's in the game and etc. For example, Lawson isn't playing this saturday, does this affect the model and score slightly? Just asking
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:18 am to
They do have some good WRs, but I think our secondary has seen much better WRs this year, and been pretty efficient.

I don't want to oversell, but I think our secondary is one of the strengths of our defense, and I would put them against any WRs in the country... except when Trezmen Marshall ends up in coverage
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26561 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:37 am to
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I don't want to oversell, but I think our secondary is one of the strengths of our defense, and I would put them against any WRs in the country... except when Trezmen Marshall ends up in coverage


I too prefer it when our LBs dont draw assignments against the other team’s best WR. But I have extensive coaching experience so I wont be too harsh on the Bama staff. Just saying my son’s pee wee team would never.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 8:43 am to
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I'm curious if the model is based on the personnel who's in the game and etc. For example, Lawson isn't playing this saturday, does this affect the model and score slightly? Just asking


No, can't take into account individual players absences. The closest would be ignoring games when a QB doesn't play or something.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16632 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 9:13 am to
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The closest would be ignoring games when a QB doesn't play or something.


Soooo, what does the model look like when you exclude the USF game?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105717 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:00 am to
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Soooo, what does the model look like when you exclude the USF game?



It isn't included because I only use P5 vs P5 games. However, others use it (CFN & SP+ for example), and I do think it is weighing us down in their metrics/projections.
Posted by Sl0thstronautEsq
Member since Aug 2018
16632 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 10:03 am to
Ah, right, I have failed the reading comprehension exam:
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Note : Stats used below and in general are ONLY P5 vs P5 games.




Thanks for the reminder!
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