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Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:46 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12155 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:46 pm to
Results matter. It doesn’t matter if they offered more or the same. Alabama is in a situation where they need proven production at OT and they aren’t closing
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 7:49 pm to
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Results matter. It doesn’t matter if they offered more or the same. Alabama is in a situation where they need proven production at OT and they aren’t closing


So you think Peak should be given a blank check? That’s your big solution? You can’t be serious. How much are you donating a month?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12155 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:14 pm to
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So you think Peak should be given a blank check? That’s your big solution? You can’t be serious. How much are you donating a month?



Two non-sequiturs in one post.

First, ultimately all of this bullshite is on college athletics administrators. They were intransigent when the trade winds clearly projected that athletic amateurism was dead as a doornail a decade ago. However they invested the NCAA's efforts in keeping the status quo when that was never going to be a possibility instead of determining what the new world would look like on their own terms. So, if we're suffering in world where we have a yearly free market for the entire roster then it is ultimately our own Athletics Department, the SEC, the NCAA, and the rest of the entities in collegiate athletics to blame not the alumni and fans.

Second, figuring out how to apportion the budget and pointing out that they are probably apportioning it wrongly is fair game. I understand the money is finite but I am saying that starter quality OL with experience is possibly the most important need for this program. It isn't my job to figure out how they make those hard decisions but I'm telling you that being unable to afford credible experience at OT is the wrong answer.
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:20 pm to
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Second, figuring out how to apportion the budget and pointing out that they are probably apportioning it wrongly is fair game. I understand the money is finite but I am saying that starter quality OL with experience is possibly the most important need for this program. It isn't my job to figure out how they make those hard decisions but I'm telling you that being unable to afford credible experience at OT is the wrong answer.



What is Alabamas budget? Can you tell me what they’re paying each player as well? You just said you know they are making mistakes in that area so I’d love to review that data as well. Or.. are you just talking out of your arse and have no clue what the budget is and have no clue who’s being paid what.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16616 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:28 pm to
You know, it’s possible to both understand that we have a budget to work within while also acknowledging that we aren’t doing great meeting our needs so far this portal season. There is time left, but it’s not great so far.

What would you, Joyless Murderball, say are our needs in this portal cycle?

I guess since we don’t have any factual data we should just not even discuss it? If that’s not your point, what is? I’m still with DeBoer and his staff, but the notion that they are above reproach is ridiculous.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 8:30 pm
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:42 pm to
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What would you, Joyless Murderball, say are our needs in this portal cycle?

I guess since we don’t have any factual data we should just not even discuss it? If that’s not your point, what is? I’m still with DeBoer and his staff, but the notion that they are above reproach is ridiculous.


I would say another OL, DL, LB and WR as things stand currently. I’d prefer they be experienced but also don’t care as long as they’re quality player unlike your boy Lance Heard who had a lower pass blocking grade than Wilkin Formby this year.

I said multiple times this staff deserves shite if they are offering guys the same money and they are going elsewhere. I just think it’s dumb to act like they’re doing a shitty job in the portal when you have no clue what the offers are. You’re just bitching to bitch at that point in my opinion when you don’t have any real information on the offers.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12155 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:44 pm to
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I guess since we don’t have any factual data we should just not even discuss it? If that’s not your point, what is? I’m still with DeBoer and his staff, but the notion that they are above reproach is ridiculous.

Classic technique on message boards to stop discussions they don’t like.
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:49 pm to
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Classic technique on message boards to stop discussions they don’t like.


?? You are the one making the claim that you know the staff is misappropriating funds. I asked for proof of that claim which should be easy since you know they aren’t spending money in the right places.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12155 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:52 pm to
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What is Alabamas budget? Can you tell me what they’re paying each player as well? You just said you know they are making mistakes in that area so I’d love to review that data as well. Or.. are you just talking out of your arse and have no clue what the budget is and have no clue who’s being paid what.



The money is irrelevant. That is not my problem. I'm a fan, I pay too much money to be able to watch or attend their games. I want them to win when I do watch them. It's the admin and staff's problem to put together a winning roster with all the money they get from people like me and you. I am saying that seemingly all the starter quality experienced OTs getting gobbled up seems like a problem considering how bad we were on the OL this year.

If I were the GM, I'd probably take a chance with getting linebacker solved in-house and not even bother signing Smothers if it meant we could throw frick you money at our most debilitating problem from 2025. That's my point. I don't need to know the payroll and budget to make that assertion.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16616 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:59 pm to
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I just think it’s dumb to act like they’re doing a shitty job in the portal when you have no clue what the offers are.

If we aren’t getting players we need, we are doing a shitty job. Excuses are just that. But hey, maybe three or four true or redshirt freshmen will be ready to play good football. Unfortunately, this staff, particularly along the OL, hasnt shown themselves capable of developing talent on hand. Otherwise I’d probably be less concerned.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 9:05 pm
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 8:59 pm to
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The money is irrelevant. That is not my problem. I'm a fan, I pay too much money to be able to watch or attend their games. I want them to win when I do watch them. It's the admin and staff's problem to put together a winning roster with all the money they get from people like me and you. I am saying that seemingly all the starter quality experienced OTs getting gobbled up seems like a problem considering how bad we were on the OL this year. If I were the GM, I'd probably take a chance with getting linebacker solved in-house and not even bother signing Smothers if it meant we could throw frick you money at our most debilitating problem from 2025. That's my point. I don't need to know the payroll and budget to make that assertion.


Well. I’m glad you’re not GM then and I’m glad to hear that you don’t have a clue of the budget or who’s getting paid what.

The money does matter as well.. in my opinion talking about throwing frick you money at any player when you have 105 other players that need to get paid too. That money has to come from somewhere and it’s good to know that you are willing to not donate every month but you sure will bitch and moan that we didn’t drop a bag for a tackle with a worse pass blocking grade than Wilkin Formby.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12155 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:03 pm to
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Well. I’m glad you’re not GM then and I’m glad to hear that you don’t have a clue of the budget or who’s getting paid what.

The money does matter as well.. in my opinion talking about throwing frick you money at any player when you have 105 other players that need to get paid too. That money has to come from somewhere and it’s good to know that you are willing to not donate every month but you sure will bitch and moan that we didn’t drop a bag for a tackle with a worse pass blocking grade than Wilkin Formby.


Okay little guy. You can log off then.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16616 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:04 pm to
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105 other players that need to get paid too

No. Not even close. We don’t need to pay walk ons and the bottom 15-20 scholarship players probably shouldn’t run you more than $500K total.
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:05 pm to
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If we aren’t getting players we need, we are doing a shitty job.


Just so I follow- if we offered Peak high end market value of $2MM (based on Wilkin Formby getting $1.7MM reportedly) and USCe offered $3MM then we are doing a shitty job in the portal?
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16616 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:08 pm to
If you aren’t getting the players you need out of the portal, you’re doing a shitty job. We have major roster holes that to this point haven’t been addressed. Call it whatever you want, but if we don’t fill those needs, we aren’t getting the job done.

You want to send Courtney Morgan a participation trophy for trying?
Posted by JoylessMurderball
Member since Sep 2024
265 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:10 pm to
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No. Not even close. We don’t need to pay walk ons and the bottom 15-20 scholarship players probably shouldn’t run you more than $500K total.


You can have 105 on scholarship in 2026. I think you’re grossly underestimating what every scholarship player is getting at Alabama.. I would personally say $50K minimum but I honestly don’t know.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16616 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:14 pm to
Good for walk ons that will have scholarships then. They don’t need NIL. And if we are giving the last guy on the roster $4K a month on top of the other perks these guys get, we aren’t very smart.

Anyway. I’ll agree to disagree on this. I’m sure we both just want the team to perform well.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 9:16 pm
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
4433 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:24 pm to
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it’s good to know that you are willing to not donate every month but you sure will bitch and moan that we didn’t drop a bag for a tackle with a worse pass blocking grade than Wilkin Formby.

I ain’t willing to donate either and I’m damn sure going to complain when/if the team is playing like garbage. Why? Because the coach is making more money in a year than I’ll see in a lifetime. If anyone don’t like it, Sue me
Posted by Carlton
Forced LANKing made the GOAT Retire
Member since Feb 2016
14745 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:35 pm to
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Why? Because the coach is making more money in a year than I’ll see in a lifetime.


The Alabama coach could be getting paid minimum wage and a gas card and you still complaining lol. We are fanatics for a reason and it isn't because of how much folks is getting paid.
This post was edited on 1/10/26 at 9:41 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26243 posts
Posted on 1/10/26 at 9:45 pm to
Bottom line. If we put a product on the field next year similar or worse that this year? Courtney Morgan won't have a job at Alabama because we'll be looking for a new Head Coach at years end.

Let's see what happens.
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