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re: Off-Topic: Governor’s Race
Posted on 2/21/22 at 3:08 am to FairhopeTider
Posted on 2/21/22 at 3:08 am to FairhopeTider
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Burdette now has an ad making fun of Ivey’s ad
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First I've heard of this guy. Already like him better than MeeMaw.
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 6:18 am to FairhopeTider
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Again, it’s pretty amazing that we have a thread full of Alabama voters in this thread that kind of cover the right side of the spectrum, and there are no Ivey fans. Yet we’re sitting here talking about how she’s going to win convincingly.
Because most Alabamians can’t see past the big red R….would they have voted for a President that refused to debate on television? Their track record says yes, and that’s one thing I can’t abide by…she’d get killed in a debate, yet they voted her in (not I)…
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 6:19 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:04 am to imjustafatkid
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It isn't. Being unable to completely uncouple from federal funding is not the same as needing it. We really don't need it, and we shouldn't want it either.
ETA: I have also not at all walked back that stance. That is absolutely the stance we need to be sending to DC. Yes, if the funding exists we should try to get it. At the same time, we should want our politicians to seek tor educe federal spending at every point and be willing to lose said funding because of this because that's what happens when you reduce federal spending.
You're starting to sound/act like all those rotten politicians you've been talking about....you gonna boil that crawfish?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:08 am to coachcrisp
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You're starting to sound/act like all those rotten politicians you've been talking about....you gonna boil that crawfish?
Everything I've stated in this thread is absolutely consistent. You don't like it, so this is what you're reduced to.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:10 am to ghoast
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Because most Alabamians can’t see past the big red R….would they have voted for a President that refused to debate on television? Their track record says yes, and that’s one thing I can’t abide by…she’d get killed in a debate, yet they voted her in (not I)…
Imagine wanting to go through WORSE than what we had during COVID, and then you'll know what it would have been like under a Dem governor.
That being said, Alabama has been a Democrat state for most of its existence. For over 100 years, all the way until 2010, Democrats controlled at least 2 of the state House, Senate, and Governor's seat at all times.
ETA: Downvoters hate facts. You won't find a Democrat state that had less restrictions than we did during 2020. Hate it for ya. MeeMaw is not a great governor, and we could do better, but she's a better governor than anyone the Dems could put up.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 9:22 am
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:16 am to imjustafatkid
quote:You make general statements, then when you're called on them, you start "crawfishing" by narrowing down, or giving possible exceptions to your original statement.
Everything I've stated in this thread is absolutely consistent. You don't like it, so this is what you're reduced to.
You've been watching too many Joe Biden news clips!
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:28 am to ghoast
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she’d get killed in a debate
I don’t think people really know how feeble she is. She will be 81 at the end of her next term. It’s crazy to me that she actually wants to keep running.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:56 am to FairhopeTider
Ivey will win
It won’t be close
It won’t be close
Posted on 2/21/22 at 12:11 pm to coachcrisp
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You make general statements, then when you're called on them, you start "crawfishing" by narrowing down, or giving possible exceptions to your original statement.
Nope. It's pretty simple: Yes, we should try to get funding that exists. No, that doesn't mean federal spending is good. No, we should not want increased federal spending. Yes, we should elect people who want to reduce federal spending. No, Katie Britt is not that sort of person.
I'd love for you to point out when I have contradicted or "crawfished" on any of these statements.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:25 pm to imjustafatkid
quote:What you just posted, with the exception of your Katie Britt comment, are mostly watered-down versions of what you originally said. Example:
Nope. It's pretty simple: Yes, we should try to get funding that exists. No, that doesn't mean federal spending is good. No, we should not want increased federal spending. Yes, we should elect people who want to reduce federal spending. No, Katie Britt is not that sort of person.
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Given that the financial stability of this state (and Huntsville in particular) depends on federal spending
YOU SAID:
[/b]This is 100% false. The reality is that federal government programs rely on federal government funds in this state. We are not at all reliant on the federal government to function. All of that headline-grabbing nonsense is meant to direct your ire from the states who are actually reliant on the federal government.
ETA: The federal government funding federal programs and federal entities is not an Alabama problem, and the state would be just fine without them."
Also:
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Just so we're clear, are you arguing that Alabama's economy would be just fine without TVA, NASA, Redstone Arsenal, Maxwell Air Force Base, Fort Rucker, the Anniston Army Depot, and the federally funded research at our universities, or are you arguing that Alabama's economy would be just fine without Medicare, WIC, SNAP, Social Security, and 70% of Medicaid?"
Then you said:
"Yes. This is absolutely not in doubt whatsoever.
That being said, my statement was more about the folks who claim Alabama is a drain on the federal government in terms of taxes. The reality is that couldn't be further from the truth. That is the first thing that comes to my mind when someone says "the financial stability of the state," which is exactly what you said and I responded to and is not how most people would refer to "the economy." From my perspective, you moved the goalposts after you got challenged on your statement.
Now I'm not going to bring up more, but it's obvious that you've got the ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth, so let's just leave it at that!
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/21/22 at 6:34 pm to coachcrisp
I wonder how the Senate race will play out. Obviously Mo will be in the runoff, but who finishes 2nd and what candidate will get the voters of the 3rd place finisher?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 6:45 pm to FairhopeTider
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I wonder how the Senate race will play out.
The runoff will be Brooks and Britt. Who wins it just depends on also you said, who the supporters of the others break for or if they come out at all.
ETA - IMO it’s premature to ask who will finish second. The polls seem to have it pretty close between Brooks and Britt with the two of them accounting for about 60% of the vote.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:00 pm to JustGetItRight
I'm so sick of Tim James' stupid TV ads that I could pull my hair out. Why would anyone think he's remotely qualified to run this state? MeeMaw's tv ad is hilarious -- because it's different than the usual mud-slinging commercials. She may not be "all there," but at least the people in her office running the state behind the scenes are not embarrassing the state. It's sad that we don't have more qualified people running. 
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:34 am to coachcrisp
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Now I'm not going to bring up more, but it's obvious that you've got the ability to talk out of both sides of your mouth, so let's just leave it at that!
I don't know what to say. Nothing you just quoted that I said is in conflict with anything else that you quoted that I also said. I stand by every single one of those quotes. I'm actually pretty shocked that you think those statements conflict at all. In fact, those quotes are all saying the exact same things.
At this point I'm thinking maybe you just don't understand what you quoted.
ETA: I just read it again, and the second and third quotes are literally the exact same thought stated two different ways, and neither of those are at all in conflict with the post you responded to. Thanks, I guess?
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 12:39 am
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:09 am to imjustafatkid
YOU:
ETA: The federal government funding federal programs and federal entities is not an Alabama problem, and the state would be just fine without them."
Also:
"quote:
Just so we're clear, are you arguing that Alabama's economy would be just fine without TVA, NASA, Redstone Arsenal, Maxwell Air Force Base, Fort Rucker, the Anniston Army Depot, and the federally funded research at our universities, or are you arguing that Alabama's economy would be just fine without Medicare, WIC, SNAP, Social Security, and 70% of Medicaid?"
Then you said:
"Yes. This is absolutely not in doubt whatsoever."
I'll just leave this comment with the board to read and contemplate.
It pretty much nails your mentality.
PS-It's really ironic how Huntsville has become the largest city in Alabama...wonder why.
ETA: The federal government funding federal programs and federal entities is not an Alabama problem, and the state would be just fine without them."
Also:
"quote:
Just so we're clear, are you arguing that Alabama's economy would be just fine without TVA, NASA, Redstone Arsenal, Maxwell Air Force Base, Fort Rucker, the Anniston Army Depot, and the federally funded research at our universities, or are you arguing that Alabama's economy would be just fine without Medicare, WIC, SNAP, Social Security, and 70% of Medicaid?"
Then you said:
"Yes. This is absolutely not in doubt whatsoever."
I'll just leave this comment with the board to read and contemplate.
It pretty much nails your mentality.
PS-It's really ironic how Huntsville has become the largest city in Alabama...wonder why.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 8:13 am
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:35 am to coachcrisp
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but at least the people in her office running the state behind the scenes are not embarrassing the state.
Giving out a $3 billion contract for prisons without bidding it out should embarrass you.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 9:59 am to coachcrisp
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I'll just leave this comment with the board to read and contemplate.
It pretty much nails your mentality.
You're right. It does. This isn't some sort of "gotcha." I have freely stated my thoughts on this multiple times throughout the pages of this thread. The problem here is that you keep claiming I'm contradicting myself, but you have failed to show how.
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PS-It's really ironic how Huntsville has become the largest city in Alabama...wonder why.
No one wonders why. It's because of NASA and Redstone Arsenal. That isn't in question whatsoever. My argument is the state would be just fine without those things, and so far no one in this thread has presented any evidence otherwise.
If you haven't come to the realization over the past 2 years that over-reliance on the federal government just equals less freedoms for all, then I'm not sure what to tell you. The federal government ruling through unconstitutional mandate to federal contractors and places that accept federal money is NOT how our country is supposed to be run, and clearly shows why we need to be doing everything we can to be less reliant on the federal government.
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:20 am to McGregor
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Giving out a $3 billion contract for prisons without bidding it out should embarrass you.
What leads you to believe this happened? I tried to verify your comment and am finding that the opposite happened.
I'm not at all a fan of Alabama's bid law, but it does not require bids for professional services and it looks like the state is only in the design phase of this project. Architectural design is specifically listed as an exempt professional service in the Code of Alabama, Section 41-16-51a3. There are many other exceptions, but I removed them from the quote below because it would be far too much to list here.
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(a) Competitive bids for entities subject to this article shall not be required for utility services, the rates for which are fixed by law, regulation, or ordinance, and the competitive bidding requirements of this article shall not apply to:
(3) Contracts for securing services of attorneys, physicians, architects, teachers, superintendents of construction, artists, appraisers, engineers, consultants, certified public accountants, public accountants, or other individuals possessing a high degree of professional skill where the personality of the individual plays a decisive part.
That being said, it does look like the state followed the same basic process for bidding when it selected the design firms, even though they were under no obligation to do so. LINK
I don't believe the bid process for construction has started yet, as that would come after the design phase. That link above says:
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Upon completion of this design phase, the ADOC will solicit bids for contractors in early 2022 to complete the required Sitework and Enabling Work Projects per the standard procedures of the Alabama Division of Construction Management.
This post was edited on 2/22/22 at 10:33 am
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:43 am to imjustafatkid
If you don't mind, what is your profession?
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:51 am to In Hsv
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If you don't mind, what is your profession?
He's a fat kid.
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