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Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:30 am to FairhopeTider
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:30 am to FairhopeTider
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Do you pay the second string long snapper the same as Tua?
This has always been my question. Once you open that can of worms all bets are off. And if you think it's difficult to keep "cheaters" in check now just wait til all the players are being paid.
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Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:44 am to FairhopeTider
I don't see the issue in paying an appearance fee. You could argue its a flat fee across all Div 1 schools, a smaller fee for Div 2. Whether that is $2,000 or $5,000 a game, that is set by NCAA or Conferences. You see the field you get paid, irrelevant if you take one snap or 80.
If you played in 14 games per season, for 4 years, and was paid $5k a game, that's $280k for your college career. I think that is fair. Its not life altering, but if is fair.
In this scenario, if you said on average 50 players played all 14 games, that's a cost to the University of $3M a year.
If you played in 14 games per season, for 4 years, and was paid $5k a game, that's $280k for your college career. I think that is fair. Its not life altering, but if is fair.
In this scenario, if you said on average 50 players played all 14 games, that's a cost to the University of $3M a year.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 9:53 am to diggyson
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In this scenario, if you said on average 50 players played all 14 games, that's a cost to the University of $3M a year.
Yet many schools couldn't afford that. Think UAB could stroke a check like that?
Do you think that would affect roster management or morale? Think it would be healthy for the sport? Not to mention the fact that if you do it for football, you'd have to do it for every other sport.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:09 am to diggyson
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$2,000 or $5,000 a game
This is irrelevant to the topic but can you imagine what the average player will do with that money? That could be a docu series all on its own.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:23 am to 615tider
Not to mention that money would be taxable. So the schools are writing these big checks and the players will only be bringing home a percentage of that income.
Of course there will be the inevitable crying about how it's not fair that the Heisman candidate QB makes the same "appearance fee" as the long snapper or holder.
Of course there will be the inevitable crying about how it's not fair that the Heisman candidate QB makes the same "appearance fee" as the long snapper or holder.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:28 am to FairhopeTider
I use $2,000 or $5,000 arbitrarily. Honestly have no clue how TV deals are shared between Universities, but whatever amount needs to be blanket across the division.
Roster management, arguably it should enhance competition for places!
And yea, not saying all sports should be the same, but if you are paying Football players, all NCAA sports athletes should be paid.
Roster management, arguably it should enhance competition for places!
And yea, not saying all sports should be the same, but if you are paying Football players, all NCAA sports athletes should be paid.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:29 am to 615tider
30 for 30 volume on its own
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:34 am to FairhopeTider
However even today, the Heisman candidate QB and holder earn the same 
so that wouldn't change.
Do they deserve to paid differently, that's a different question but i don't think in this scenario, at a college level, it should be different because then you will be talking contracts and agents etc etc.
so that wouldn't change. Do they deserve to paid differently, that's a different question but i don't think in this scenario, at a college level, it should be different because then you will be talking contracts and agents etc etc.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:39 am to diggyson
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I use $2,000 or $5,000 arbitrarily. Honestly have no clue how TV deals are shared between Universities, but whatever amount needs to be blanket across the division.
TV Deals are made with the conferences. So you think a portion of the money the SEC gets from CBS should go towards paying a player for Troy?
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all NCAA sports athletes should be paid.
So now we're talking about paying a girl's field hockey player the same as Tua or Kyler Murray? Why should she get paid at all? Not only is this not even feasible because most schools can't afford it, it's not even fair to the star athletes for the sports that bring in all of the money.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 10:41 am to FairhopeTider
Which is why they should be able to make money from their name. Doesn't cost the universities an extra penny.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:00 am to Capstone2017
I'm only in favor of paying athletes if they then have to pay their own tuition, room and board, pay for their world class personal training, pay an advertising fee to the school for the value of the national exposure they are getting by being on TV. The idea that athletes are not being handsomely compensated, especially for what is essentially a part time job hours wise, is ridiculous. The average college student works an actual job or jobs equivalent to the hours football players put in, and they don't have an academic support staff there helping to make sure they get their school work done. It's the school making the multi million dollar investments in the program that makes any of it possible in the first place.
This post was edited on 11/20/18 at 11:06 am
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:04 am to FairhopeTider
Football player worth to a University
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Overall, the average FBS player is worth $163,087 a year, with the average football team taking in $29.5 million in revenue each year.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:06 am to diggyson
quote:are they just dividing average revenue by the number of players? That's pretty ludicrous way to arrive at a number
Overall, the average FBS player is worth $163,087 a year, with the average football team taking in $29.5 million in revenue each year.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:22 am to narddogg81
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are they just dividing average revenue by the number of players? That's pretty ludicrous way to arrive at a number
the number wouldn't be 163,087 if that was how they did it. It would be 347,000.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:49 am to Funky Tide 8
quote:are they counting not scholarship players? Do they get paid too?
the number wouldn't be 163,087 if that was how they did it. It would be 347,000.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 11:49 am to narddogg81
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I'm only in favor of paying athletes if they then have to pay their own tuition, room and board, pay for their world class personal training, pay an advertising fee to the school for the value of the national exposure they are getting by being on TV. The idea that athletes are not being handsomely compensated, especially for what is essentially a part time job hours wise, is ridiculous. The average college student works an actual job or jobs equivalent to the hours football players put in, and they don't have an academic support staff there helping to make sure they get their school work done. It's the school making the multi million dollar inve
Well said.
There is a VERY easy fix. Just get rid of athletic scholarships. Kids who got into school like everyone else come out for the sports earn a spot on the team and play. Works for many college sports already.
Lots lower costs for the schools and no more terrible exploitation. Of course, a lot of kids that are getting a very high quality education and opportunities they would never get otherwise would be out of luck, but hey, that’s better than being exploited like they are now, right?
Posted on 11/20/18 at 12:45 pm to Capstone2017
College athletes get a free education, free food, free place to live, and limelight. They are paid plenty
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:03 pm to pvilleguru
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I don't see the problem with that.
OK, well that's just paying players to come to your school. It would be a slight difference than AU outbidding MSU for Cam, the ONLY difference is Cam would have to give them a signed picture or whatever in exchange to make it "legal" by selling his likeness.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 1:27 pm to PCRammer
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OK, well that's just paying players to come to your school. It would be a slight difference than AU outbidding MSU for Cam, the ONLY difference is Cam would have to give them a signed picture or whatever in exchange to make it "legal" by selling his likeness
Sounds good to me.
Posted on 11/20/18 at 2:12 pm to Capstone2017
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Can anyone convince me that it's fair that the University makes hundreds of millions off the players work without paying them?
The players don't generate all that money. Brands are what sell college athletics. Otherwise everyone would just watch pro sports because those players are objectively better.
If you took just a bunch of solid former high school players and put them out there this Saturday for the Iron Bowl on CBS, the state of Alabama would still watch.
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