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re: Interesting Tidbit from Aaron Suttles new article...

Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:24 am to
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:24 am to
I’m believing my own eyes and what happened last Monday night. And I’m believing the lack of offense we showed against evey single good defense we played the last two years.

And wasn’t Daboll at all the practices?

Look, this argument is lost. Get over it.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 10:27 am
Posted by Swm323
Pace,FL
Member since Mar 2013
1360 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:43 am to
I can't believe this is still being argued about. Jalen got us there, couldn't finish the job. Tua took over and is now the alpha dog it appears. End of story. It doesn't matter why he didn't play earlier. We won the damn National Championship. That's all that matters.

ETA: I argued for Jalen. I thought he earned the right to start and play. Tua is the better QB. River, you were correct in that.
This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 10:45 am
Posted by AHM21
Member since Feb 2008
24543 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:44 am to
I agree. At this point someone needs to be banned.
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 10:49 am to
I agree.
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:02 am to
In my opinion, Ridley was an upset artist. Plays are designed to be fluidly and competently carried out. The quarterback throws the ball to the receiver and hits him in stride or out of a break, etc. Ridley and the receivers did their jobs. Jalen did not. In fact, we can see that Jalen was woefully incapable of doing his job. Ridley was a weapon. He was sidelined by a quarterback who was very limited in his ability to throw the ball effectively, but who was able to do enough to consistently win and thus earn the right to play. Ridley saw opportunities get wasted and loathed them. Ridley acted poorly and failed to provide good senior leadership to both the receiving corps and the team.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:07 am to
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Ridley acted poorly and failed to provide good senior leadership to both the receiving corps and the team.



I thought Ridley kept it together pretty well for what he had to endure knowing the talent we had on the bench.

He was a JR, not a SR.

It's CNS's fault.
Posted by LukeSidewalker
Mobile, Alabama
Member since Dec 2012
8417 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:32 am to
He should have asked Norwood a thing or two.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5900 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:32 am to
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Look, this argument is lost. Get over it.


You scream "reading comprehension", but don't care to have any yourself. Once again, I'm all for Tua taking over the reigns. And again, I'm all for Tua taking over the reigns. What I'm saying is there is a legitimate reason why Tua was not handed those reigns sooner.

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And wasn’t Daboll at all the practices?


Daboll is an OC who's looking to put up as many points as possible, so he can leverage it into an NFL job. Of course he wants a gunslinger over the safe option. It blows my mind that people think that is some ground-breaking news. Nick Saban cares about winning, period. He obviously felt more confident about putting the safe option out there and relying on the running game and defense to win games. When Jalen played poorly and he needed offense to win the championship, he made the right call and put in the gunslinger who proved himself worthy. We won it all, and we still have people complaining about how that switch should have happened sooner...
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:49 am to
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And wasn’t Daboll at all the practices? Look, this argument is lost. Get over it.


Daboll doesn't make the call on which QB plays, it's that simple. Saban wants no turnovers, Tua threw them in practice. He is a gunslinger it's what they do.

I think the point has been made over and over. I physically watched practices where Tua threw multiple picks. Saban was pissed, each and every time lol.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:55 am to
Shouldn't be that hard to fathom Tua would be safer with the ball in games than he would be trying to make big plays in practice to get some PT in games.

Doesn't mean squat if you never turn the ball over if you can't move the team and convert on 3rd down. Makes it that much worse when FG kicking is not sound. Also wears the D down because the offense doesn't sustain drives.

CNS was going to go with the elder guy no matter how few picks Tua threw in practice.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 11:59 am to
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Shouldn't be that hard to fathom Tua would be safer with the ball in games than he would be trying to make big plays in practice to get some PT in games.

What? If you want to get on the field, then you need to show that you won't turn it over in practice.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:03 pm to
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What? If you want to get on the field, then you need to show that you won't turn it over in practice.




You think Hurts never turned it over in practice?
Posted by BleednCrimson02
BIRMINGHAM
Member since Jan 2018
97 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:04 pm to
No. He rolled out to the right and threw it out of bounds.
Posted by doghouse_4x4
Tidewater, Va.
Member since Dec 2013
1328 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:04 pm to
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CNS was going to go with the elder guy no matter how few picks Tua threw in practice.


Lotta psychics around these parts.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:06 pm to
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No. He rolled out to the right and threw it out of bounds.




Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Lotta psychics around these parts.




It's his MO for QB's. Pretty obvious.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:10 pm to
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You think Hurts never turned it over in practice?



Sounds like he turned it over a lot less than Tua. If people can't understand that Saban's QB has to take care of the ball, then youvevpaid no attention over the last decade. He will take a throw away and a punt over an interception every day.
Posted by River_City_Tider
Javksonville
Member since Nov 2015
881 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:14 pm to
Well then, he should have stuck to his guns and played Jalen in the second half the other night.

Jalen had no turnovers in the 1st half. He should have finished the game.

This post was edited on 1/16/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:16 pm to
Good thing Shaun Alexander never played for him, he would have never gotten in the game.

By his own admission he hated practicing and loafed a bit in practice.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24907 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:18 pm to
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He will take a throw away and a punt over an interception every day.



That's good until you have to have a throw and your QB can't throw for sheet. Then you lose.

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