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re: Greg Byrne Tweet regarding Alabama missing the playoff.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:24 pm to Pharmdbamafan
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:24 pm to Pharmdbamafan
But we have been scheduling not just one, but two major OOC for seasons later in this decade when nobody thought Saban was going to still be around. We also did so knowing the SEC was expanding and would be much tougher. Again, it made no sense to get so aggressive with our schedule.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:45 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
The was the obvious conclusion to today’s results. The committee values the number of wins, no matter the opponent, over everything else.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:47 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Siap. Rest up playing inferior opp.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:48 pm to angryslugs
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The committee values the number of wins, no matter the opponent, over everything else.
This year.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:52 pm to Night Vision
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This year.
Another reason why we need to move away from a human committee. These people rotate in and out every year and what they value therefore changes every single year. There should be a set standard and a set list of criteria that gets factored into these decisions.
Tell me in what world does it make sense for Arizona State and Boise State to have a first round bye? Tell me in what world it makes sense that #1 Oregon has one of the most difficult paths to the championship while Penn State, a team they beat in the Big Ten title game, has one of the easiest. None of this makes any sense whatsoever. The seeding needs to change, the criteria needs to be cemented, and there needs to be some computer or AI element to the decision-making process.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:05 pm to RollTide1987
Yesterday before the SECCG, I took a look at the list of committee members and immediately knew we would be screwed if SMU lost a close game.
Is a sane world, they’d put Saban in charge of it and tell him to put the best football people possible on there. Instead we get a bunch of administrators and such. What a joke of a system.
Is a sane world, they’d put Saban in charge of it and tell him to put the best football people possible on there. Instead we get a bunch of administrators and such. What a joke of a system.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 6:07 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 7:09 pm to FairhopeTider
I don't want to lose playing ND and Ohio St OOC. That would really suck.
You can't have that reaction...the next committee might suddenly value SOS over wins over weak teams.
Why can't we use the BCS computer rankings, which are unbiased and very good, and just take the top 12 teams and forget conference BS? This current clusterfuk isn't getting the "12 best teams"...so it's a "mythical" NC going forward.
You can't have that reaction...the next committee might suddenly value SOS over wins over weak teams.
Why can't we use the BCS computer rankings, which are unbiased and very good, and just take the top 12 teams and forget conference BS? This current clusterfuk isn't getting the "12 best teams"...so it's a "mythical" NC going forward.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 7:42 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Obviously Alabama’s losses were conference games, so this wouldn’t have “helped” Alabama this year
I'm not so sure. You can spend more time working on future opponents if your next matchup is with an FCS school.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:21 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Would love to know Byrne’s reasoning here. We went full steam ahead on scheduling even before the playoff was expanded and after the SEC added TX/OU. Why? We knew Saban wouldn’t be around but for a few more years. We really thought that having some brutal OOC would help when it had yet to be proven?
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 8:43 pm to FairhopeTider
I don’t blame him. I’d be canceling those games and replacing them with scrubs, if you have to schedule a P5 conference team let’s schedule Purdue or Stanford, SEC reg season is enough of a test.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 7:43 am to labamafan
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That’s a great response.
Meh. "12 best teams" is irrelevant, because the system was never designed or intended to reward the twelve best teams. Surely he knows that. Once you include 5 conference winners by default, it will almost never be the 12 best teams.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:15 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Did not like Byrne doing that. Looks soft and weak. However, the "community notes" guys miss the point. The point is that if you are a P4 team, make the part of your schedule you can control as easy as possible. Even though we handled our business this year, some of our future scheduling may need to be revisited if SOS is not going to be considered.
With that said, I think conference automatics will probably go away in 2026, and we probably are less than a decade from the Big Ten and SEC doing their own thing. If anybody will still care at that point.
With that said, I think conference automatics will probably go away in 2026, and we probably are less than a decade from the Big Ten and SEC doing their own thing. If anybody will still care at that point.
Posted on 12/9/24 at 10:47 am to Bham Bammer
There are two points that are constantly missed:
(1) regardless of who we lost to, the harder the schedule the more opportunities for losses. It's hard to play and beat really good teams every single week. Vanderbilt illustrates this perfectly; they're obviously not as good as UGA, but the emotional and physical toll of playing UGA and then going on the road obviously affected us that game. Not an excuse, but I doubt we lose to Vandy if we we played Mercer the week before.
(2) We should be invoking Clemson to make our point. Clemson schedules two hard af out of conference games: UGA and South Caroline. The reason they looked different than SMU on paper was only because of those two games. And if they hadn't scheduled them, Clemson would have rolled into the ACC championship with a single conference loss, and a top 12 ranking.
(1) regardless of who we lost to, the harder the schedule the more opportunities for losses. It's hard to play and beat really good teams every single week. Vanderbilt illustrates this perfectly; they're obviously not as good as UGA, but the emotional and physical toll of playing UGA and then going on the road obviously affected us that game. Not an excuse, but I doubt we lose to Vandy if we we played Mercer the week before.
(2) We should be invoking Clemson to make our point. Clemson schedules two hard af out of conference games: UGA and South Caroline. The reason they looked different than SMU on paper was only because of those two games. And if they hadn't scheduled them, Clemson would have rolled into the ACC championship with a single conference loss, and a top 12 ranking.
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