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re: Fall Practice Thread. "Practice?" "We Talkin' Bout Practice?"
Posted on 8/15/15 at 8:21 pm to mrbroker
Posted on 8/15/15 at 8:21 pm to mrbroker
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Offense - It was bad. real bad. Blake Simms A-Day bad. I'm not sure the 1st team Offense would have scored on the second or first team Defense if they had played all day long.
QB's - it was not good. Coker and Barnett took every rep with the 1's. Coker consistently threw over and behind receivers and seemed late on every throw. Threw 1 Int. Barnett threw 3 Int's (2 would've been pick 6's). Bateman and Morris took every snap with the 2's. Both had some good throws but it was basically more of the same. Bateman had 1 int. Cornwell took every snap with the 3's. Led the only TD drive of the main scrimmage against the 3rd team D. Bateman and Morris both threw TD passes at the end of the day during 2 minute work.
Rb's - didn't run the ball much. Drake didn't play. Henry didn't run it much at all. Harris ran it the most but didn't get much when he did. Our front 7 on D is nasty. Harris had 2 run from the 2 yard line during goal line work and got stuffed both times.
WR's - didn't do a whole lot. Stewart caught maybe 2 passes. Ridley looked good but we kept trying to swing it out to him like we did Cooper and that just wasn't working today. Kief had a few good catches. Foster had 1 decent catch and run. About it.
TE's - OJ dropped about 3 passes over the middle - knew he was going to get lit up and just dropped it. Florney- Smith had a good TD catch from Morris in 2 minute work.
OL - seemed decent - gave up a few sacks. Jonathan Allen was in the backfield all day. Gave up at least 3 batted balls -all thrown by Coker. Couldn't tell much.
DL - outstanding - we all knew that - we are almost 3 deep at every spot.
LB's - outstanding again - D.Lee had a Int in the end zone during goal line work.
DB's - much improved. Fitzpatrick will start at corner and would've been the mvp today. had 2 int's and at least 4 pub's. Eddie jackson looked great at safety. made some great plays. only db i saw get burned all day was Geno Smith. Harrison is a better safety but I think he and Jackson play the same position. Maurice Smith did a great job. was basically matched up with OJ Howard in the slot all day. Only allowed 1 catch. Cyrus was Cyrus. had 1 int when Bateman tried to throw over his head.
Special teams - Punter is taken care of for the next three years. Griffin hit his first 2 kicks both from 45-50 and then missed 3 in a row from under 35. Just inconsistent again like last year. Rayborn made all his attempts. Kickoff return wasn't live but it looked like Cyrus and Henry on kickoff returns and Ridley on punt returns.
All I can remember right now. I'll update if I think of anything more.
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Posted on 8/15/15 at 8:23 pm to chattabama
So frick our lives on offense.
This Minkah hype is fricking unbelievable.
This Minkah hype is fricking unbelievable.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 8:32 pm to alabamabuckeye
I would not judge the offense based on situational scrimmages.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 8:38 pm to alabamabuckeye
he getting a lot of reps since Hump and brown are gimpy. We are deep at this position with underclassman.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 9:04 pm to alabamabuckeye
Remember in the Spring when Harrison came in and was learning the playbook and coming along so well? Minkah's Fall Camp is that Harrison Spring on steroids.
Secondary is loaded with talent, I think Mel Tucker is gonna prove to be a great hire, the D can carry this team, but hopefully the O is stout. This time last year I don't think there was a lot of good things being said about our QBs. This scrimmage was a lot of situational work against a defense that is far too good and experienced.
Still, I hope practicing against such a good D makes the O better instead of killing their confidence.
Secondary is loaded with talent, I think Mel Tucker is gonna prove to be a great hire, the D can carry this team, but hopefully the O is stout. This time last year I don't think there was a lot of good things being said about our QBs. This scrimmage was a lot of situational work against a defense that is far too good and experienced.
Still, I hope practicing against such a good D makes the O better instead of killing their confidence.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 9:06 pm to RollTide1987
Sounds like 2011.
I'm not too worried about the offense. I'm really hoping the oline has improved. If so, we'll be fine. One of the QB's will be good enough. Saban is motivating them right now.
I'm not too worried about the offense. I'm really hoping the oline has improved. If so, we'll be fine. One of the QB's will be good enough. Saban is motivating them right now.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 9:47 pm to Teague
Wish we would run the damn ball more this year. Need some RB depth.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 9:48 pm to Sebastian
If these QB reports are accurate, we will.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 9:57 pm to chattabama
I hope we don't have Henry returning kicks. We don't need him or Drake hurt. It sucks that Coker is still late with the ball.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:05 pm to Cobrasize
quote:It sucks that we have to go through this shite yet again
It sucks that Coker is still late with the ball.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:13 pm to MontyFranklyn
Has anyone heard anything about Lester Cotton? He hasn't been seen for 3 practices.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:22 pm to chattabama
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Reading between the lines on Saban's "QB doesn't need to win the game" line
This leads me to believe that it's going to be Alec Morris if things keep going like they are.
The Nick Saban I know will always go with the guy that makes fewer mistakes over a more talented guy who's mistake prone.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:34 pm to Goombaw
there really is no way to win in camp if your D does great or your O does great, it means the other must suck. no telling until you actually play. im choosing to believe that the D is going to awesome and the O will look much better against normal teams. we certainly have the pieces on D to be epic.
This post was edited on 8/15/15 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 8/15/15 at 10:44 pm to Cobrasize
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I hope we don't have Henry returning kicks. We don't need him or Drake hurt. It sucks that Coker is still late with the ball.
I'll never understand why people always say this. Kick and punt returns can have as much impact on a game as any other aspect. Arenas' punt returns are one of the biggest reasons Bama won a NC in 2009. Yet, most of our fans don't want to "risk" putting our best players back there. What are we saving them for?
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:00 pm to Teague
I can't remember the last time I saw a returner get injured. It is mostly the blockers getting injureda.
Posted on 8/15/15 at 11:53 pm to 3moredays
No. | Name | Pos. | Class | Ht. | Wt.
1 Chris Black WR Jr. 6-0 192
2 Tony Brown DB So. 6-0 195
2 Derrick Henry RB Jr. 6-3 242
3 Bradley Sylve DB Sr. 6-0 180
3 Calvin Ridley WR Fr. 6-1 188
4 Daylon Charlot WR Fr. 6-0 195
4 Eddie Jackson DB Jr. 6-0 194
5 Ronnie Clark RB Fr. 6-2 228
5 Cyrus Jones DB Sr. 5-10 196
6 Blake Barnett QB Fr. 6-5 200
6 Laurence "Hootie" Jones DB So. 6-2 219
8 Robert Foster WR So. 6-2 194
9 Da'Shawn Hand DL So. 6-4 273
9 Bo Scarbrough RB Fr. 6-2 240
10 Reuben Foster LB Jr. 6-1 240
11 Alec Morris QB Jr. 6-3 233
11 Kendall Sheffield DB Fr. 6-0 185
12 David Cornwell QB Fr. 6-5 221
13 ArDarius Stewart WR So. 6-1 204
14 Jake Coker QB Sr. 6-5 232
15 Ronnie Harrison DB Fr. 6-3 218
15 JK Scott P So. 6-5 198
16 Jamey Mosley LB Fr. 6-5 221
16 Richard Mullaney WR Sr. 6-3 208
17 Kenyan Drake RB Sr. 6-1 210
17 Adonis Thomas LB Fr. 6-2 228
18 Keaton Anderson LB Fr. 6-1 220
18 Cooper Bateman QB So. 6-3 220
19 Reggie Ragland LB Sr. 6-2 252
20 Shaun Dion Hamilton LB So. 6-0 229
21 Maurice Smith DB Jr. 6-0 199
22 Ryan Anderson LB Jr. 6-2 249
23 Deionte Thompson WR Fr. 6-2 183
23 Jabriel Washington DB Sr. 5-11 182
24 Geno Matias-Smith DB Sr. 6-0 196
25 Dillon Lee LB Sr. 6-4 242
26 Marlon Humphrey DB Fr. 6-1 192
27 Shawn Burgess-Becker DB Fr. 6-1 205
28 Anthony Averett DB So. 6-0 180
29 Minkah Fitzpatrick DB Fr. 6-0 195
29 Brandon Turner RB So. 5-9 171
30 Denzel Devall LB Sr. 6-2 252
31 Xavian Marks RB Fr. 5-8 161
32 Rashaan Evans LB So. 6-3 225
33 Derrick Gore RB So. 5-11 210
34 Damien Harris RB Fr. 5-11 205
34 Christian Miller LB Fr. 6-4 213
35 Walker Jones LB So. 6-2 240
35 Thomas Woods WR So. 5-6 165
36 Johnny Dwight TE Fr. 6-3 300
37 Jonathan Rice WR Fr. 6-4 207
38 Austin Johnson WR Fr. 62 190
39 Tevin Isom WR Fr. 6-1 185
40 Joshua McMillon LB Fr. 6-3 240
41 Blaine Anderson DB Jr. 5-10 170
42 Keith Holcombe LB Fr. 6-4 223
43 Gussie Busch LB Fr. 5-11 205
44 Levi Wallace DB So. 6-0 172
45 Hunter Bryant TE So. 6-5 222
45 Cedric Powell DB So. 5-11 185
46 Michael Nysewander TE Sr. 6-1 237
47 Bo Grant DB Jr. 6-2 195
48 Mekhi Brown LB Fr. 6-5 240
50 Alphonse Taylor OL Jr. 6-5 325
54 Dalvin Tomlinson DL Jr. 6-3 294
55 Cole Mazza SN Jr. 6-2 240
56 Brandon Kennedy OL Fr. 6-3 290
56 Tim Williams LB Jr. 6-4 230
57 D.J. Pettway DL Sr. 6-3 270
58 Brandon Greene OL Jr. 6-5 300
59 Dallas Warmack OL Fr. 6-2 297
60 Brandon Moore OL Sr. 6-0 251
61 Nolan Boatner OL Fr. 6-2 272
62 Will Davis OL Jr. 6-5 315
63 J.C. Hassenauer OL So. 6-2 295
65 Chris Posa OL Jr. 6-4 281
66 Lester Cotton OL Fr. 6-4 315
68 Isaac Luatua OL Sr. 6-2 315
69 Joshua Frazier DL So. 6-4 315
70 Ryan Kelly OL Sr. 6-5 297
71 Ross Pierschbacher OL Fr. 6-4 298
72 Richie Petitbon OL Fr. 6-4 315
74 Cam Robinson OL So. 6-6 326
75 Bradley Bozeman OL So. 6-5 320
76 Dominick Jackson OL Sr. 6-6 315
77 Matt Womack OL Fr. 6-7 315
78 Korren Kirven OL Jr. 6-4 300
81 Derek Kief WR Fr. 6-4 198
82 JaMichael Willis WR Jr. 6-0 180
83 Ty Flournoy-Smith TE Sr. 6-3 247
84 Hale Hentges TE Fr. 6-5 235
86 Truett Harris TE Sr. 6-3 220
86 A'Shawn Robinson DL Jr. 6-4 312
87 Parker Barrineau WR Sr. 6-0 184
88 O.J. Howard TE Jr. 6-6 242
89 Armani Purifoye WR So. 6-0 195
90 Jarran Reed DL Sr. 6-4 313
91 O.J. Smith DL Fr. 6-2 308
93 Jonathan Allen DL Jr. 6-3 283
94 Dakota Ball TE Jr. 6-3 254
94 Daron Payne DL Fr. 6-2 315
95 Darren Lake DL Jr. 6-3 315
96 Stephen Hodge DL Sr. 6-2 254
96 Gunnar Raborn K So. 5-9 187
99 Adam Griffith PK Jr. 5-10 192
1 Chris Black WR Jr. 6-0 192
2 Tony Brown DB So. 6-0 195
2 Derrick Henry RB Jr. 6-3 242
3 Bradley Sylve DB Sr. 6-0 180
3 Calvin Ridley WR Fr. 6-1 188
4 Daylon Charlot WR Fr. 6-0 195
4 Eddie Jackson DB Jr. 6-0 194
5 Ronnie Clark RB Fr. 6-2 228
5 Cyrus Jones DB Sr. 5-10 196
6 Blake Barnett QB Fr. 6-5 200
6 Laurence "Hootie" Jones DB So. 6-2 219
8 Robert Foster WR So. 6-2 194
9 Da'Shawn Hand DL So. 6-4 273
9 Bo Scarbrough RB Fr. 6-2 240
10 Reuben Foster LB Jr. 6-1 240
11 Alec Morris QB Jr. 6-3 233
11 Kendall Sheffield DB Fr. 6-0 185
12 David Cornwell QB Fr. 6-5 221
13 ArDarius Stewart WR So. 6-1 204
14 Jake Coker QB Sr. 6-5 232
15 Ronnie Harrison DB Fr. 6-3 218
15 JK Scott P So. 6-5 198
16 Jamey Mosley LB Fr. 6-5 221
16 Richard Mullaney WR Sr. 6-3 208
17 Kenyan Drake RB Sr. 6-1 210
17 Adonis Thomas LB Fr. 6-2 228
18 Keaton Anderson LB Fr. 6-1 220
18 Cooper Bateman QB So. 6-3 220
19 Reggie Ragland LB Sr. 6-2 252
20 Shaun Dion Hamilton LB So. 6-0 229
21 Maurice Smith DB Jr. 6-0 199
22 Ryan Anderson LB Jr. 6-2 249
23 Deionte Thompson WR Fr. 6-2 183
23 Jabriel Washington DB Sr. 5-11 182
24 Geno Matias-Smith DB Sr. 6-0 196
25 Dillon Lee LB Sr. 6-4 242
26 Marlon Humphrey DB Fr. 6-1 192
27 Shawn Burgess-Becker DB Fr. 6-1 205
28 Anthony Averett DB So. 6-0 180
29 Minkah Fitzpatrick DB Fr. 6-0 195
29 Brandon Turner RB So. 5-9 171
30 Denzel Devall LB Sr. 6-2 252
31 Xavian Marks RB Fr. 5-8 161
32 Rashaan Evans LB So. 6-3 225
33 Derrick Gore RB So. 5-11 210
34 Damien Harris RB Fr. 5-11 205
34 Christian Miller LB Fr. 6-4 213
35 Walker Jones LB So. 6-2 240
35 Thomas Woods WR So. 5-6 165
36 Johnny Dwight TE Fr. 6-3 300
37 Jonathan Rice WR Fr. 6-4 207
38 Austin Johnson WR Fr. 62 190
39 Tevin Isom WR Fr. 6-1 185
40 Joshua McMillon LB Fr. 6-3 240
41 Blaine Anderson DB Jr. 5-10 170
42 Keith Holcombe LB Fr. 6-4 223
43 Gussie Busch LB Fr. 5-11 205
44 Levi Wallace DB So. 6-0 172
45 Hunter Bryant TE So. 6-5 222
45 Cedric Powell DB So. 5-11 185
46 Michael Nysewander TE Sr. 6-1 237
47 Bo Grant DB Jr. 6-2 195
48 Mekhi Brown LB Fr. 6-5 240
50 Alphonse Taylor OL Jr. 6-5 325
54 Dalvin Tomlinson DL Jr. 6-3 294
55 Cole Mazza SN Jr. 6-2 240
56 Brandon Kennedy OL Fr. 6-3 290
56 Tim Williams LB Jr. 6-4 230
57 D.J. Pettway DL Sr. 6-3 270
58 Brandon Greene OL Jr. 6-5 300
59 Dallas Warmack OL Fr. 6-2 297
60 Brandon Moore OL Sr. 6-0 251
61 Nolan Boatner OL Fr. 6-2 272
62 Will Davis OL Jr. 6-5 315
63 J.C. Hassenauer OL So. 6-2 295
65 Chris Posa OL Jr. 6-4 281
66 Lester Cotton OL Fr. 6-4 315
68 Isaac Luatua OL Sr. 6-2 315
69 Joshua Frazier DL So. 6-4 315
70 Ryan Kelly OL Sr. 6-5 297
71 Ross Pierschbacher OL Fr. 6-4 298
72 Richie Petitbon OL Fr. 6-4 315
74 Cam Robinson OL So. 6-6 326
75 Bradley Bozeman OL So. 6-5 320
76 Dominick Jackson OL Sr. 6-6 315
77 Matt Womack OL Fr. 6-7 315
78 Korren Kirven OL Jr. 6-4 300
81 Derek Kief WR Fr. 6-4 198
82 JaMichael Willis WR Jr. 6-0 180
83 Ty Flournoy-Smith TE Sr. 6-3 247
84 Hale Hentges TE Fr. 6-5 235
86 Truett Harris TE Sr. 6-3 220
86 A'Shawn Robinson DL Jr. 6-4 312
87 Parker Barrineau WR Sr. 6-0 184
88 O.J. Howard TE Jr. 6-6 242
89 Armani Purifoye WR So. 6-0 195
90 Jarran Reed DL Sr. 6-4 313
91 O.J. Smith DL Fr. 6-2 308
93 Jonathan Allen DL Jr. 6-3 283
94 Dakota Ball TE Jr. 6-3 254
94 Daron Payne DL Fr. 6-2 315
95 Darren Lake DL Jr. 6-3 315
96 Stephen Hodge DL Sr. 6-2 254
96 Gunnar Raborn K So. 5-9 187
99 Adam Griffith PK Jr. 5-10 192
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:12 am to Teague
quote:the other 99% of the game where its hard to have an inexperienced player make a positive impact.
What are we saving them for?
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 12:22 am
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:19 am to narddogg81
quote:jesus christ, i didnt realize he was this big. i hope he has some of his brother's drive. recruiting sites say he runs a 4.68 and has a 40" vert.
16 Jamey Mosley LB Fr. 6-5 221
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 2:53 am to narddogg81
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I was fortunate enough to attend the scrimmage today, the following is a mix of what I saw and my opinions.
Coker started and was very underwhelming. While he eventually made the right decisions and didn't throw any interceptions, he was very late and indecisive. On several occasions he would have good gains but was a beat or two late, which caused the receiver to run out of field or allowed the defender to make the play.
The order was Coker, Barnett, Bateman, Morris, & Cornwell. I can only assume that Cornwell was being disciplined, because he only got 1 series. Barnett looked in control and was decisive, but threw into coverage too much and had 3 picks. Two of them for TD's, he's not there yet but will be soon. Bateman made a couple good throws to end the scrimmage but was "eh" for the rest. In the short time he had Cornwell was by far the most impressive. Even though he was with the 3's on O he went right down the field on the defense which consisted of a mix of 1's and 2's. Morris had a very good scrimmage, made a bunch of good throws and didn't see any that I thought were "bad" throws or int's. IN MY OPINION Cornwell or Morris should be the guy, allow Barnett to grow. This was a passing scrimmage 90% passing, no running backs really stood out. The best thing to come from the O was that the 1st team Oline looked very impressive in pass protection. There were only 2 sacks against them, both past D. Jackson. One on Bateman by Tim Williams and one on Coker by Evans.
Now for the best part, the Defense!!!
This is going to be a GREAT defense. The best hire in all of football ( college or pro) was Mel Tucker. The secondary was fantastic! While the QB was just average for the most part, the DB's were always in position. They consistently turned to find the ball and knocked down over 10 balls, along with 5 int's. No receivers getting lost in coverage and were there every time in run support. The starters were G. Smith and Jackson at safety, and Jones and the next top 10 pick at CB for Bama Fitzpatrick. I want to say this about Fitzpatrick, he will be the best corner in the country as a sophomore. The kid is unreal!!! We are at least 6 deep at corner, Brown and Hump are going to be very good, Averrett and Sylvester are as well. Didn't see much of Sheffield but I have heard good things on him also.
No one will be running on this team. They are 10-11 deep on the line with no drop off. Payne has come in and is playing at a high level too, just to add more. We also have a plethora of pass rushers in Evans, Williams, Anderson, Miller, Hand, etc... I can't see 3rd down D being a problem this year. I truly feel this defense will be just below the 2009 team. There are several leaders, but just one Alpha on this team, Ragland is The Man. He was all over the few slackers on the team, great to see.
With just average QB play that doesn't throw int's, this will be a championship caliber team. Again these are just my opinions and observations. Really looking forward to this season and watching this team.
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Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:08 am to chattabama
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. They consistently turned to find the ball
This can't be true.
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