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re: Eyabi Anoma currently not enrolled at Alabama
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:10 am to prevatt33
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:10 am to prevatt33
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For the record, all Cecil did was report what the university said, i.e. "Anoma is not currently attending classes." What could he have been right or wrong about? The spelling?
I don't recall anyone accusing Cecil of being wrong factually. I'm not saying this to wade into any further conversation on the topic - only to prevent people's words from being rewritten. I, for one, only questioned Cecil in his writing of a purposeful incomplete story, which I also indicated is a choice all journalists have to make. When to publish. Cecil chose to publish this blurb, and while defensible and even correct from certain perspectives, is not in my opinion the best type of article. I prefer the a whole story to be told, rather than a blurb that fosters conjecture.
Shut up. You made all kinds of claims in this thread.
You realize people can just go back and read the thread right?
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:14 am to prevatt33
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Cecil chose to publish this blurb,
Your criticisms should be directed at his bosses and editors it sounds like. Cecil probably has a pretty long leash on what he writes, and how he writes it, but ultimately it's up to people above him on what gets published.
And it's highly possible Cecil had the whole story, but his higher ups were reluctant to publish it for myriad reasons.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:20 am to TidalSurge1
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I'm not embarrassed about anything I posted in this thread. My only criticism of Cecil's article was that it seemed to me he was doing some subtle whining about not being able to get any details from UA about Anoma, other than the statement that he isn't currently attending classes.
What part of the article even remotely sounded like he was upset about Alabama's lack of information?
Do you understand that it was likely the only information Alabama was allowed to give legally?
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By the next day, other outlets reported more details, such as Anoma's recent suspension and travels. Did Cecil know about those details when he broke his story and purposely exclude them? I don't know and I honestly don't care.
What does it matter? You are upset because he reported facts instead of a bunch of rumors? The writing was on the wall, as I said days ago - you can get way more information out of things than what is directly said.
I don't get it. You guys berate him because you say he is reporting clickbait, but then you are upset because he didn't post rumors rather than waiting for facts.
Makes no sense.
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I wasn't ever defending Anoma. I was merely advocating that fans should wait for additional reliable info instead of jumping to premature conclusions. I said I think it's fine to discuss what might be going on. I even posted a little bit myself about some factors that might be involved, such as a family member being seriously ill.
There was no jumping to conclusions. There was a logical look at the information and speculation based on the most likely scenario's based on the information.
Some of you just wanted to assume other things because it made you happier and refused to acknowledge the information, instead choosing to attack Cecil as being "clickbait" and attacked the messenger.
Go back and reread the thread.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:28 am to prevatt33
Could the OP please change the title of this thread to "Cecil Hurt".
That way, I won't click on this thread to find out about Anoma.
Thanks.
That way, I won't click on this thread to find out about Anoma.
Thanks.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:48 am to jatebe
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Could the OP please change the title of this thread to "Cecil Hurt".
That way, I won't click on this thread to find out about Anoma.
Thanks.
Sorry for my contribution. I keep saying to myself I'm not going to reply anymore. But then I see people trying to rewrite a narrative even after they are wrong and it's like ugh.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 11:53 am to 3down10
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:21 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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You miss your bisexual affirmative action failure Obama?
Came to read more on Anoma and somehow we ended up here. Jesus.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:32 pm to tider04
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I think some of y'all who were defending Anoma (and knocking Cecil) are perhaps a little embarrassed and trying to save face now that it's clear he was right, as he usually is.
Actually wrong on many aspects here. No one that I saw was defending Anoma. I saw some like myself get irritated because we have fans that are quick to call out a player that may not pan out. They jump on a player because he may leave the team like they knew the real reason. Like saying he was a head case or lacked the drive. I have an issue when people bash a player especially when they thought he was going to help the team win they were behind him and now ready to kick him to the curve.
In regards to Cecil who cares. His job is to report on UA football. He writes articles to get clicks and generate income. He may post more info without rumors then others but it does not change is how the business works. And for anyone that may have been upset about Cecil it was more about is dangling info that allowed some of our sad posters to jump the gun and bash the kid. Nothing more and nothing to save face on.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:38 pm to 3down10
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I keep saying to myself I'm not going to reply anymore. But then I see people trying to rewrite a narrative even after they are wrong and it's like ugh.
You mean anyone that does not agree with you. Hell I give you credit for the effort trying to convince people they are wrong and you are right. We can crown you all knowing for the day.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 1:40 pm to 3down10
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Go back and reread the thread.
Take a breathe and your own advice here.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:05 pm to 3down10
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Shut up
It's going to be a fun season.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:42 pm to TidalSurge1
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I'm not embarrassed about anything I posted in this thread. My only criticism of Cecil's article was that it seemed to me he was doing some subtle whining about not being able to get any details from UA about Anoma, other than the statement that he isn't currently attending classes.
I didn't detect even hint of whining from Cecil about anything in that article? Not sure what part of his article you're referencing, but its seems like a stretch. Bottom line is Cecil got some inside info that Anoma had left campus, he called UA to confirm, and broke the story before anyone else. The fact that he chose not to divulge the details that Saban himself likely didn't want out there, like Anoma being suspended, etc certainly doesn't mean he was unaware of those details. In fact, you can safely bet the farm he knew those things far sooner than a dude like Stephen Smith did. Cecil probably didn't want to shame the kid but did want the public to know he was gone. Classy IMO.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 2:52 pm to tider04
Has anyone heard anything about tampering?
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IbrahimHachimuraRuiFanpage???? @YUPTerpsUpNext
Funny how Saban is now trying to say we tampered with Anoma. ?????? it’s BEEN known the kid was NEVER happy there give me a break. ????
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:03 pm to jatebe
No, but it's possible our staff has evidence of tampering and that they turned it over to the NCAA. I'm sure it's not uncommon these days. You'll never convince me Kirby and UGA didn't tamper with Mo Smith a couple of years ago.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 3:35 pm to tider04
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My only criticism of Cecil's article was that it seemed to me he was doing some subtle whining about not being able to get any details from UA about Anoma, other than the statement that he isn't currently attending classes.
I didn't detect even hint of whining from Cecil about anything in that article? Not sure what part of his article you're referencing, but its seems like a stretch. Bottom line is Cecil got some inside info that Anoma had left campus, he called UA to confirm, and broke the story before anyone else. The fact that he chose not to divulge the details that Saban himself likely didn't want out there, like Anoma being suspended, etc certainly doesn't mean he was unaware of those details. In fact, you can safely bet the farm he knew those things far sooner than a dude like Stephen Smith did. Cecil probably didn't want to shame the kid but did want the public to know he was gone. Classy IMO.
My take that Cecil seemed to be doing some subtle whining could be wrong.
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Crimson Tide linebacker Anoma not enrolled at UA, per school
By Cecil Hurt
University of Alabama freshman outside linebacker Eyabi Anoma is “currently not attending classes at The University of Alabama,” according to UA’s Associate Vice President for Communications.
The one-sentence response from Monica Watts, UA Associate Vice President for Communications, was in response to a query from The Tuscaloosa News.
“Eyabi Anoma is currently not attending classes at The University of Alabama,” the statement said. UA offered no addditional details
A spokesman for the UA Athletics Department referred all questions to UA’s Division of Communications.
While UA offered no clarification of Anoma’s status with the football team due to federal privacy laws, Anoma would not be allowed to participate in team activities, including the start of football practice next week, if he is not enrolled in classes.
It seems to me, Cecil could've left out all the stuff in bold -- since UA was simply following federal privacy laws. I've previously said Cecil might've known more and left it out. I didn't criticize that. Like I said, my take could be wrong. Yours could be spot on. Perhaps Cecil included the stuff in bold to promote that The Tuscaloosa news was first and diligent in their inquiry to UA about Anoma's status.
ETA: I very rarely post in these kinds of threads. And I regret deviating from that by posting in this one.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 4:14 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 4:35 pm to TidalSurge1
Considering he's spent years and years and years writing about Alabama athletics I think a safer assumption to make is that he in fact knows that literally the only info the university can legally provide him with is whether an individual is currently enrolled, and stated the extent of what the school told him to cover UA and himself in the event that Anoma decided he wants to file a lawsuit.
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:05 pm to Robot Santa
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:07 pm to TidalSurge1
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It seems to me, Cecil could've left out all the stuff in bold
The part you bolded was pretty critical to everything.
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"The one-sentence response from Monica Watts,".
Indicated to me that it was similar to a "can't comment on this" response. Which is likely the case legally when someone isn't enrolled at the school(I don't know the laws, but I know they have them for incoming players for sure).
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"was in response to a query from The Tuscaloosa News."
Indicated the reason why she was issuing the response.
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"UA offered no additional details".
Again, this built on the reason why I thought he wasn't enrolled that they couldn't comment beyond that.
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"A spokesman for the UA Athletics Department referred all questions to UA’s Division of Communications."
I think this part of things was particularly important. This told me that prior to them asking the Division of Communications where they got the above quote, they had initially tried to contact the football team/AD, and they refused to answer, refering them to the university itself. That lead me to believe he wasn't with the football team most likely.
So what you seem to think were signs of butthurt from Cecil I thought was pretty important information. It was these things and the way they were presented that lead me to believe that he was leaving.
To me that is good reporting. Gave me the facts I needed and presented them in a manner that gave the context needed to see the picture.
This post was edited on 7/29/19 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:09 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Jonah Williams wasn’t exactly thrilled about Anoma leaving. He made that clear today.
That's brutal
Rag dolled him
Posted on 7/29/19 at 5:19 pm to CrimsonBoz
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Jonah Williams wasn’t exactly thrilled about Anoma leaving. He made that clear today.
Damn. Pretty telling for Jonah Williams to go there. Not sure if its more telling about Jonah or Anoma but I don't recall Jonah ever coming close to bad-mouthing or calling anyone else out.
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