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re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition

Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:32 pm to
Posted by Carlton
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:32 pm to
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Bone mentioned he's still hearing that the most likely number for our class is 28 on the radio yesterday, FYI.


I have heard 28 is likely from most everyone who covers Bama this year as well (Kirschner, Bone, etc.). After 2017 and the whole Jarez Parks situation and blueshirts, however I don't put much stock in their numbers.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 1:43 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:42 pm to
Welcome back homie. frick the haters
Posted by seanpendleton10
North Myrtle Beach SC
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 1:58 pm to
I love some of you here. Ok so how does our staff view metchie? I wasn't shocked by him but he must be way underrated. I watched his film and he's good but our staff must love him because I thought we had better options in my opinion. With that being said don't bash me I'm not good at watching film
Posted by Che Boludo
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:06 pm to
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I still follow almost daily and now I'm going to post more from now on.
Stick with what got you noticed. I see big things in your future here young man, big things.

- Management
Posted by Sebastian
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:28 pm to
Do not care what services rate him. Their opinion doesn’t matter in the end. I bet this kid will show to be vastly underrated.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:33 pm to
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I have heard 28 is likely from most everyone who covers Bama this year as well (Kirschner, Bone, etc.). After 2017 and the whole Jarez Parks situation and blueshirts, however I don't put much stock in their numbers.

I suppose Bama could already have agreements with a couple of recruits, such as Reichard grayshirting and Tyson's family paying his way for one year. If so, that would allow for "taking" 28, counting them. I doubt Bama would let such details leak, but maybe the 28 number has.

ETA: Taking 28 in a manner such as that, means those two would count against 2020 signee and initial counter limits. From the signees and initial counters perspective, the 2019 class size would be 25 + 1 for an EE counted against our leftover 2018 spot, and the 2020 class size would be 25, counting the two 27th & 28th 2019 cycle deferred signees/counters. However, Jordan Davis could also be taken as a 26th in the 2020 class, since we'd still have one more initial counter spot than signee spots due to him already being counted as a signee.

Here's how that works out: A 2nd 2019 EE will use the 2018 initial counter spot Davis didn't use. That means we'll preserve an unused 2019 initial counter spot that'll then get used by a 2020 EE. In turn, that'll open a 2020 initial counter spot that Davis can use without spending a signee spot, since Davis was already counted against our 2018 25 signees limit. That appears to be how it's designed to work out, so that the school ultimately doesn't wind up losing a spot due to a non-qualifier if they take him when he's finishing juco. It resolves the issue of the signee spot that was spent on him.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 5:59 pm
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 2:52 pm to
I'm guessing the staff views him as a guy who will transfer after a couple of years when he's buried on the depth chart, which explains why they took his commitment.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:27 pm to
We probably did but I am guessing the staff didn't feel good about their chances with Pickens and decided to take a kid that wanted to be here. I guess we can wait until huddie pandy bear peckerwrecker ways in on it.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 3:31 pm
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:34 pm to
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I suppose Bama could already have agreements with a couple of recruits, such as Reichard grayshirting and Tyson's family paying his way for one year. If so, that would allow for 28, counting them. I doubt Bama would let such details leak, but maybe the 28 number has. ETA: Taking 28 would cause 2 to count against 2020 signee and initial counter limits, dropping the 2020 class size to 23. However, Jordan Davis could be taken as a 24th in that class.


I'm not sure how he'll work all the numbers out in future classes. But I did hear a little nugget recently (3rd hand) that Saban is being EXTREMELY proactive in how he plans to deal with the new grad transfer rules. Let's just say that it's likely that our numbers of total scholarship players on the team (talking about the 85 limit) heading into the Summer in years going forward will be kept slightly under 85. Have heard that he plans to be very aggressive with grad transfers. Not sure how all of that changes the class size numbers going forward (after the 2019 signing class).
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:54 pm to
He's gonna teach folks a lesson
Posted by seanpendleton10
North Myrtle Beach SC
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 3:57 pm to
I get that kids are underrated all,the time, I was just wondering how good the staff felt the kid is? That's all
Posted by seanpendleton10
North Myrtle Beach SC
Member since Sep 2017
3375 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:05 pm to
I do like billinglsey alot and I think he could be a star TE down the road. I read he showed out and I love his size
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:11 pm to
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I'm not sure how he'll work all the numbers out in future classes. But I did hear a little nugget recently (3rd hand) that Saban is being EXTREMELY proactive in how he plans to deal with the new grad transfer rules. Let's just say that it's likely that our numbers of total scholarship players on the team (talking about the 85 limit) heading into the Summer in years going forward will be kept slightly under 85. Have heard that he plans to be very aggressive with grad transfers. Not sure how all of that changes the class size numbers going forward (after the 2019 signing class).

I sense some "3rd hand" exagerration on that. Every grad transfer taken will use a signee and initial counter spot that could've otherwise been used to sign a high school recruit with four years of eligibility. Therefore, I doubt Saban takes grad transfers unless it's to fill a serious hole and he has high confidence that transfer can fill it well. In other words, I expect Saban's philosophy on taking grad transfers will be very similar to what it is for jucos.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 4:52 pm
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49884 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Ok so how does our staff view metchie

I don the know how the staff views him, but I see him as a Kevin Norwood type.
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:41 pm to
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I get that kids are underrated all,the time, I was just wondering how good the staff felt the kid is? That's all.

Locksley and Gattis recruited Metchie hard in order to beat out Penn State for him. They spent significant time and money, including a summer official visit to land him, gave him a precious spot in our class that's very limited on space, and WR isn't a pressing need in this cycle. So given all that, it seems to me the staff likes him a lot.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:48 pm to
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I sense some "3rd hand" exagerration on that. Every grad transfer taken will use a signee and initial counter spot that could've otherwise been used to sign a high school recruit with four years of eligibility. Therefore, I doubt Saban takes grad transfers unless it's to fill a serious hole and he has high confidence that transfer can fill it well. In other words, I expect it'll be pretty much the same philosophy as taking jucos.


I expect that he'll take more than he has up until this point (provided there are enough of them out there that can play at the level he's looking for, which is, of course, the big "IF"). He's ticked off and ready to prove a point.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 4:49 pm
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:57 pm to
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I expect that he'll take more than he has up until this point (provided there are enough of them out there that can play at the level he's looking for, which is, of course, the big "IF"). He's ticked off and ready to prove a point.

Maybe. But it's also not going to sit well with guys on the roster who have been working hard, paying dues and waiting for their time to play, if/when Saban cherry picks some grad transfer and then starts him instead. I don't expect a significant increase in Bama losing or taking highly valuable grad transfers. We'll see.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 6:00 pm
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13334 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:14 pm to
Metchie looks good as a DB imo
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:29 pm to
Yep, and it likely factored into him being a take.
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 5:31 pm
Posted by RammerJammer91
Member since Jan 2016
5636 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:38 pm to
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I doubt Saban takes grad transfers unless it's to fill a serious hole and he has high confidence that transfer can fill it well.


Agreed. I could also see Saban taking a grad transfer with 2 years of eligibility remaining, since that would essentially be like signing a JUCO prospect.
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