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re: Class of 2019 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: That's a Wrap Edition
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:03 pm to SoFla Tideroller
LINK ]The Opening Finals: Dream Team (247sports)
Note: Segments for Bama targets posted below.
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FRISCO, TX — It's not enough to do a mere 'top performers' piece from The Opening Finals. You need to build your dream team.
That's exactly what we've done following the conclusion of the premier all-star event of the summer, which took place at The Star in Texas this year rather than at the usual stomping grounds of the Nike World Headquarters in Oregon.
We saw a wide receiver dominate in ways we probably haven't seen yet at The Opening Finals. An upper crust of quarterback talent (surprisingly) emerged. Among the trenches, we saw several rankings-validating performances.
Putting our heads together, with the help of unofficial stats that 247Sports tracked along the way, it's time to name our annual Dream Team for The Opening Finals.
Note: Segments for Bama targets posted below.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:10 pm
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Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:04 pm to TidalSurge1
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WR: GEORGE PICKENS
Rundown: Pickens barely edged out his teammate Jadon Haselwood for this spot and it was huge showing in the championship game that ultimately gave him the edge. Pickens delivered big plays and highlight-worthy moments all weekend and no defensive back could deal with his size. He's committed to Auburn.
Key Stats: 29 receptions, 9 TD
247Sports Composite Rank: 51
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:04 pm to TidalSurge1
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OL: EVAN NEAL
Rundown: Neal looks like the guy with the highest ceiling among all the offensive linemen. He’s massive (upwards of 6-foot-7 and 360 pounds) and whenever he went up against an elite edge rusher, it felt like an event. He took every elite guy’s best shot and the way he responded makes me think Neal's got No. 1 OT upside (currently he's the eighth tackle in the 247Sports Composite). Miami holds all seven picks in the Crystal Ball.
Key Stats: 9-10-2 unofficial overall record in OL/DL challenge
247Sports Composite Rank: 43
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:04 pm to TidalSurge1
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DL: KAYVON THIBODEAUX
Rundown: Props. Thibodeaux came out focused, almost as if he wanted to reassert himself as the clear No. 1 player in the country — before the event, his stock had been trending in the wrong direction. The Californian showcased elite edge speed, bend and a startling physicality that caught some big offensive tackles off guard. He also did it against the elite offensive linemen on hand. We tabbed him as our defensive line MVP. Southern Cal, Florida, Florida State, Oregon and Alabama are all in the mix.
Key Stats: 14-5-1 unofficial overall record in OL/DL challenge
247Sports Composite Rank: 1
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:04 pm to TidalSurge1
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DL: NATHAN PICKERING
Rundown: By our count, Pickering had the best win percentage of any defensive lineman in one-on-ones. The recent Mississippi State commit is versatile enough to play inside or outside and he’s got a quickness that can catch you off guard and was more than most offensive linemen could handle.
Key Stats: 10-4 unofficial overall record in OL/DL challenge
247Sports Composite Rank: 47
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:10 pm to TidalSurge1
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NICKEL: TYRIQUE STEVENSON
Rundown: Stevenson got a little bit cute at one point and Garrett Wilson beat him on a deep ball but his overconfidence came from an otherwise dominant 7on7 performance. He was everywhere and showed all the physical traits you need at corner. Miami is the Crystal Ball favorite.
Key Stats: 2 INT, 2 PBU
247Sports Composite Rank: 78
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:10 pm to Carlton
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I am perfectly open to people not thinking he is good enough, but I'm not clear what the arguments are.
As I said earlier, he isn't a bad talent. He is decent.
However there are better talents that have interest in us.
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We have had a number of guys on the Dline over the years that I wouldn't consider explosive or as athletic as other guys. Or we saying this guy physically and/or talent wise can't fill any role on our Dline?
That was a different time. Style of play has adapted and so has Saban.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:12 pm to YStar
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I thought you were wrong because Cheyney had good film. Unlike some people (definitely not you) I actually know football and can form my own opinions; I'm not a sheep which needs narratives fed to me.
With that said my stance has changed on Cheyney. We have seen him at three different camps struggle mightily.
Film don't lie, no matter how much some want it to.
Cheyney isn't as explosive as I thought and he doesn't have great moves. He's a decent prospect, but a definite project who won't contribute for some years.
Are you at least open to the possibility that you may have watched the wrong film?
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:15 pm to YStar
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Dude you can repeat posting that and downvoting. I'll use my own eyes and come to my conclusions.
All well and good. Sometimes people dont' agree with your conclusions....especially when you mentioned earlier this year that Robert Kraft is a terrible owner compared to Blank and Rooney. I happened to think Kraft is a great owner...just my opinion though
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:20 pm to Che Boludo
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Are you at least open to the possibility that you may have watched the wrong film?
I watched his Junior film and liked what I saw. I disagreed with some who weren't that impressed when Cheyney initially committed.
Over the last couple months Cheyney has done some camps and he hasn't really impressed.. again I'm not using a site's recollection; I'm stating what I saw.
If you have the time to go back and actually watch all his videos from camp. He is easily stone-walled, doesn't really have a second move and doesn't really explode off the line.
He is still a good prospect but not a super elite one. If we do sign him, he will be a project player who will take some years to develop.
This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:21 pm to VanBasten9
Lol, for Kraft my reasons are personal. I know guys who love him and stand by him for what he did for them post-career.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:21 pm to YStar
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However there are better talents that have interest in us.
That may be the case but sometimes you take a lesser talent to fill a specific role. Back to my orginal question what is his role and based on his film why can't he fill that role?
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That was a different time. Style of play has adapted and so has Saban.
Yes, but that doesn't mean every lineman is still extremely athletic or explosive. It comes down to scheme, role and situation, I'm assuming. Which goes back to my orginial question about Cheney.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:25 pm to Carlton
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That may be the case but sometimes you take a lesser talent to fill a specific role. Back to my orginal question what is his role and based on his film why can't he fill that role?
You don't know his role. We are speaking generally about the player, his performances and his abilities compared to others.
Tomorrow if he decommits, your tone will change and you'll pretend you always thought it was for the best.
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Yes, but that doesn't mean every lineman is still extremely athletic or explosive. It comes down to scheme, role and situation, I'm assuming. Which goes back to my orginial question about Cheney.
Why say extreme? Why not just accept what Saban has said himself which is he has had to adapt by looking for more athletic defensive talent to combat hurry up no huddle and spread offenses?
Anyways, why are you taking this personally? You related to Cheyney or something?
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:32 pm to YStar
That's my thing about Cheney. I don't know his role. He isn't fast or explosive enough to be a small pass rusher in the inside and he also isn't big enough to be a fun stuffer even tho he has added weight. At the end of the day tho I think we always need some of these development guys who know they aren't going to play on day one. They all can't be five stars because there would be too many who leave.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:40 pm to YStar
I think that's the issue. He is good with pads on but in a camp setting he doesn't look so good.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:42 pm to Tide or Die87
Evan Neal was committed to us? If take him over Wright.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:42 pm to YStar
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You don't know his role. We are speaking generally about the player, his performances and his abilities compared to others.
I never said I knew his role. I don't which is why I keep asking what is it and why can't he do it. Would you please tell me.
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Tomorrow if he decommits, your tone will change and you'll pretend you always thought it was for the best.
I don't have a tone or opinion on Cheney. I don't know what Bama wants him for so I have never expressed one.
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Why say extreme? Why not just accept what Saban has said himself which is he has had to adapt by looking for more athletic defensive talent to combat hurry up no huddle and spread offenses?
Huh. I agree with this. I can remove the word extremely. That doesn't mean that Cheney doesn't qualify to do something in our scheme even adjusting to this reality. That why I keep asking what is he role and why can't he fill it.
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Anyways, why are you taking this personally? You related to Cheyney or something?
I don't know where you get personal from. The first time I have ever mentioned Cheney in a post is to ask the simple question of what is his role and based on the film you saw why can't he do it so I could understand the argument against him. If asking a single question and waiting for an answer is taking something personal than I'm guilty I guess. This post was edited on 7/4/18 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:53 pm to Tide or Die87
He looked awfully good at the opening slimed down and athletic for a tackle. . I’d take him and never look back!
Posted on 7/4/18 at 12:53 pm to Carlton
Nice debate keep it up five me something to do while baking in the sun.
Posted on 7/4/18 at 1:17 pm to Tide or Die87
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Evan Neal was committed to us? If take him over Wright.
Early last year for a hot minute.
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