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re: Class of 2018 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: So Long Old Friend Edition
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:21 pm to TidalSurge1
Posted on 3/5/17 at 4:21 pm to TidalSurge1
Visit Baylor? With that shite show going on with a joke defense? Baylor might as well not even play a corner. There's no point.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 5:35 pm to MagillaGuerilla
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Lady lied to me Friday, said they'd have them in Sunday. Did not. So I call a Target on 280 in Bham and said they had 6 in stock.
So I make the usual hour drive from the Oxford Exchange to 280 in 40 minutes
Sorry Five-o...
None in Trussville? That would have saved you almost 40 miles round trip.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 6:34 pm to Evolved Simian
Had a 1 track mind after Oxford didn't have any, common sense flew out the window going 90.
Cruel irony is a lot of places I've been to have sold out of Switch games
Cruel irony is a lot of places I've been to have sold out of Switch games
Posted on 3/5/17 at 6:44 pm to MagillaGuerilla
The Zelda game looks great
Posted on 3/6/17 at 8:51 am to TideSaint
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Georgia CB interested in Alabama
Most prospects when they get a chance to see Nick Saban’s office are blown away with the five national championship rings that sit on the coffee table. Jaycee (pronounced Jay-Cee) Horn was the latest prospect to sit in Saban’s office, and the thing that stood out to him on his first trip to the coach’s office wasn’t the rings.
“The hats he has. You know those bucket hats he wears during practices? I like those,” Horn said with a laugh. “The rings were cool, too.”
Horn, a 3-star cornerback from Alpharetta (Ga.) High School, spent 25 or 30 minutes with Saban on Friday, and he picked up an offer from the Crimson Tide. Although Saban’s bucket hats may have had his attention for a little while, Horn said Saban raved about his game.
“It was pretty exciting and kind of shocking in the moment, too, because you’re actually sitting across from him,” Horn said. “I’m used to just seeing him on TV. It was just crazy listening to all of the good things he had to say about the school. He gave me the offer after that, and it was very exciting.”
Horn, who is the son of former Saints wide receiver, four-time Pro Bowl selection Joe Horn, said Alabama always has been one of the schools he liked growing up. Horn cited the Tide’s tradition and the defensive backs the team has produced over the years.
The 6-foot-1, 174-pound prospect said Saban told him that he could see him playing corner or safety in Alabama’s defense. This past season for Alpharetta was Horn’s first playing defensive back full time. He picked off 6 passes and deflected 24 balls in 11 games.
“Anything Saban said about my game was a pretty big deal,” Horn said. “I just soaked it all in.”
Friday wasn’t the first time Horn visited Tuscaloosa. He’s attended two camps in the past. But this past weekend’s trip with his father to Alabama was his first opportunity to get an extended tour. He most liked the players’ lounge, where he played a few games of ping-pong.
His dad, who played 12 years in the NFL while amassing 8,744 receiving yards, has told his son to take his time with his recruitment and take as many visits as possible. After visiting Tuscaloosa, the Horns went to Knoxville to see Tennessee. The previous weekend he was at South Carolina — the school his father originally signed with before enrolling at Itawamba Community College (Mississippi).
Horn, who has played everything from linebacker to quarterback growing up, isn’t focusing on wide receiver like his father because as he puts it, he’d rather be the one laying people out.
“My dad has always told me stories about DBs in the league and he told me that it’s a fun position to play because he actually played it, too,” Horn said. “I like hitting people, also. I’d rather hit than get hit.”
There’s no timetable for Horn’s decision regarding a possible commitment but expect the Crimson Tide to be in the race for Horn until he signs.
“I have very high interest in Alabama because it’s Alabama,” Horn said. “They can’t be at the bottom of your list. It’s not just because they’re Alabama, but I’ve camped with coach (Derrick) Ansley and I got a chance to see how he coaches. I learned a lot about the school while sitting down with coach Saban in that short time.”
Horn’s father last played for the Atlanta Falcons in 2007. But even being 10 years removed from the league, can his son cover him?
“He can’t lock me down!” Joe Horn screamed through the phone.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 8:52 am to TideSaint
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Texas DB still high on Alabama, despite not visiting
Verone McKinley III hasn’t visited Tuscaloosa, but Alabama still made his top schools list along with Clemson, LSU, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Penn State, Texas A&M and UCLA.
McKinley, a 4-star cornerback from Hebron High School (Carrollton, Texas), told SEC Country at the Dallas Opening regional on Sunday that despite not visiting Alabama, the interest in the Crimson Tide is real.
“It’s hard not to like Alabama with everything they do and the success they have,” McKinley said. “They put out so many players into the NFL and coach Saban is just all good.”
The 5-foot-11, 171-pound prospect was offered by Alabama last May, and it was a surreal moment for him.
“I got out of spring practice and my coach called me over and said, ‘Alabama called and they offered you,'” McKinley said. “I was just like, ‘Oh, wow.’ I went into the locker room and was just like, ‘Wow. That happened.'”
McKinley said he wants to commit by the end of April or the beginning of May. That’s an issue for Alabama’s chances with McKinley. It’s rare for a highly rated recruit to commit to a school without visiting at least once. He isn’t sure if he’s going to make it to Alabama before his commitment.
That tells me that when he does make his decision, the Crimson Tide won’t be the team he picks.
That hasn’t stopped the Tide from recruiting McKinley. He said he hears from defensive backs coach Ansley at least once a week. His message to the Texas cornerback is clear.
“You can come here and go to the NFL,” McKinley said. “It’s a place where you can get to the NFL, if you come in and work.”
Alabama didn’t sign any cornerbacks in the Class of 2017, and it is arguably the top priority for the Crimson Tide in the Class of 2018.
“I know they have a lot of guys on the depth chart — but the more you look at the recent depth chart — those guys will be leaving by the time I come in,” McKinley said.
While he may have serious interest in Alabama, it’s hard for me to see McKinley in a Crimson Tide uniform in 2018 because he’s never stepped foot in Tuscaloosa. Look for either Texas A&M or Oklahoma to be his choice.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 9:20 am to South Alabama Tide
Hank South CB'd Cameron Latu to USCw. 
Posted on 3/6/17 at 2:17 pm to TideSaint
Apparently, rivals is giving you 30 free days if you subscribe. I was on the fence about it until I read Bone's tweet.
"Strongly endorse". Surely, Bone would never lead us down a wrong path.

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Why would you not jump on this opportunity if you are a Bama fan??? I strongly endorse it.
"Strongly endorse". Surely, Bone would never lead us down a wrong path.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:04 pm to TideSaint
You like Verone McKinley III in this years class?
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:23 pm to Captain Crown
I haven't watched his film yet.
I'm still kinda meh about recruiting right now TBH.
I'm still kinda meh about recruiting right now TBH.
Posted on 3/6/17 at 5:28 pm to TideSaint
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I'm still kinda meh about recruiting right now
Me too. I don't know what's wrong with me this year. I'm trying
Posted on 3/6/17 at 6:41 pm to Cobrasize
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:35 am to Cobrasize
LINK ]Alabama’s breeding of its players ‘like animals’ helps with top OL; top 10 DE looking to rebuild bond with Tide | SEC Country
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Welcome to SEC Country’s daily Roll Tide-ings, a rundown of everything happening in Alabama Crimson Tide recruiting with Chris Kirschner. Today, we discuss the latest with Texas offensive lineman Rafiti Ghirmai and 4-star defensive end Jarell Cherry.
Texas OL visiting Alabama on Wednesday
One of the hottest recruits in the country will make his first trip to Tuscaloosa on Wednesday. It comes at a good time for Alabama because along with the Crimson Tide, Ole Miss, Oregon, Georgia, Arizona State, LSU and Michigan are some of the schools to offer Rafiti Ghirmai a scholarship in the past two weeks.
Ghirmai, a 3-star offensive tackle from Wakeland High School (Frisco, Texas), told SEC Country at the Dallas Opening regional this past weekend that Alabama, LSU, Florida, Texas and TCU are five schools that are standing out to him.
?Rafiti Ghirmai was named one of the top offensive linemen at the Dallas Opening regional camp. He didn’t earn a ticket to the prestigious final event, which is held at Nike’s headquarters in Oregon in late June.
The Crimson Tide could stand out even more after his trip to Tuscaloosa.
“It’s Alabama. They are always No. 1. They breed their players like animals. It’s crazy,” Ghirmai said.
The 6-foot-5, 290-pound prospect said he’s hoping to build a better relationship with offensive line coach Brent Key while on the trip. He also wants to get a feel for the players and how they like being a part of the program.
Ghirmai had a chance to speak with Nick Saban for about 20 minutes on Feb. 27, which is when he got the offer from Alabama. He said he didn’t expect to get the Alabama offer, but he called it a “great honor.”
“I texted my brother immediately, and he was like, ‘Oh, my gosh! That’s sick. That’s a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity,”’ Ghirmai said. “I wish he was coming with me to Alabama, but he’s got school stuff going on.
“Everyone looks at coach Saban like he’s a celebrity. It’s an honor that they are interested in me.”
The nation’s No. 26 offensive tackle has an interesting connection to one of Alabama’s main rivals.
Ghirmai’s parents are from Eritrea, which is a small country on the East African coast. LSU’s offensive line coach Jeff Grimes’ adopted daughter is from Ethiopia, which borders Eritrea.
With every school looking for the smallest edge over the next program, this connection could be a key one for the Tigers if they push for Ghirmai’s commitment down the road. He’ll visit Baton Rouge on March 18 for LSU’s junior day event.
“Me and coach Grimes have been talking for awhile,” Ghirmai explained. “He knows my African background. He has a little girl that he adopted from Ethiopia. I feel pretty good about that. He’s in with the culture, and I find that very cool.
“I like him and I like that program. I like Death Valley. I hear that it’s huge and I’ve heard that game day is outrageous there.”
Posted on 3/7/17 at 8:38 am to TidalSurge1
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Texas DE’s connection to Alabama losing steam over coaching changes?
Whenever an assistant coach leaves for a different job at a new school, there are usually several recruits who are affected by the change more than others. Jarell Cherry is one of those recruits who has been on the wrong end of the change.
Cherry, a 4-star defensive end/outside linebacker from Carter High School (Dallas), told SEC Country that he hasn’t heard from any Alabama staff member since former wide receivers coach Billy Napier left for Arizona State.
The 6-foot-3, 229-pound prospect said he doesn’t view Alabama any differently despite the lack of communication.
“They still fit in strongly,” Cherry said. “It’s been a little bit of a difference with some coaches leaving. They brought in some new coaches. I just hope that I can keep a strong bond with them as well. I know they have a lot to deal with, so I understand.”
The nation’s No. 7 weakside defensive end visited Tuscaloosa for the Iron Bowl this past November and said Alabama was one of his top schools at the time.
“I would say the speed that they have on defense stands out,” Cherry said. “They do have their linebackers rushing, and I do like to rush the passer.”
Like Ghirmai above, LSU is one of those schools very interested in Cherry. In fact, LSU coach Ed Orgeron himself is personally recruiting the defensive lineman.
Whenever the head coach gets involved in the day-to-day recruitment of a player, it automatically lets you know how that school views that player.
“He’s the head coach and he’s keeping the biggest eye on me, so it’s a great thing to be noticed by him,” Cherry said. “He’s looking at me to be an outside linebacker, but if not there, then probably a defensive end. I’m comfortable being an outside linebacker as well. Because of my speed, it can probably be accomplished.”
I would expect Alabama outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi to reach out to Cherry in the near future now that the Dallas area is one of his primary recruiting territories.
Posted on 3/7/17 at 10:47 am to Cobrasize
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I'm still kinda meh about recruiting right now Me too. I don't know what's wrong with me this year. I'm trying
It'll kick back up after A-Day...then ramp up again in the Summer
I sold all my systems pre-wedding in September '16 (and not on her request, she told me I was crazy and shouldn't do it lol), but we have a Wii and thinking about at some point getting a Switch
Posted on 3/7/17 at 11:06 am to BuccWildBammer
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Less than two months ago, Carterville (Ill.) High tight end Luke Ford didn’t have an FBS scholarship to his name.
Monday night he was on the phone with Nick Saban adding another offer to consider.
It’s been a whirlwind for the 6-foot-7, 250-pound Ford who started the year with a strong performance in San Antonio, Texas to earn a spot on the 247Sports U.S. Army National Combine team.
Arkansas and Oklahoma State quickly offered after that and over the last 50 days or so the likes of Florida, Georgia, Illinois, Iowa, Pittsburgh and Oklahoma have also extended a full-ride.
“Extremely blessed and overwhelmed,” Ford said of the ride. “I’m just enjoying it and having a good time.”
Ford and Saban talked for 20 minutes and he’ll return to Tuscaloosa over his spring break.
“It’s an honor,” Ford said. “He was just talking to me about how they’re going to throw to their tight ends more and how last year they didn’t use their tight end effectively but that problem has been solved.”
Saban has had Ford on the radar dating back to the summer.
“He said he liked my film a lot,” Ford recapped. “He also remembered me from his Nick Saban camp down there and remembered calling me baby Gronk. He talked about the facilities and academics, they’re basically No. 1 in everything.”
Several schools are battling for that top spot for Ford.
“It’s pretty even right now between all the SEC offers,” Ford said. “Oklahoma is up there. Illinois is up there too. That’s home state and it means something too.”
In addition to Alabama, Ford says he’ll visit Arkansas and Georgia on spring break. He has family in Fayetteville.
Luke Ford Highlights
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:17 pm to TideSaint
LINK ]Evolution of a Process: Part 4 – Success starts at the top | TideSports.com
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The University of Alabama coaching staff has some NFL flavor. It includes some longtime lieutenants for head coach Nick Saban. There are up-and-comers and coaching lifers. Its recruiting reach in recent years has extended to Maryland and New Jersey, down the eastern seaboard into south Florida, and as far west as California and Hawaii.
No two editions of Saban’s coaching staffs at Alabama have been exactly the same. Still, wins keep rolling in and NFL players continue to march out of the program.
“There’s so much attention to detail, so much accountability,” outside linebackers coach Tosh Lupoi said. “You don’t really understand that or see that as how things are until you come here. There’s a reason that the success that he has been able to sustain, that doesn’t happen by coincidence or luck.
“That happens because of the process that he’s put in place here.”
That starts at the top. Saban’s voice isn’t alone
“He will outwork everyone in the room,” strength and conditioning coach Scott Cochran said. “Hands down. No one will outwork him.”
Analyzing success
Saban has long sought to build one of the deepest coaching staffs in the nation, his capacity to do so has increased in recent years. His 2008 staff included six “interns” working in off-field positions. By 2012, the off-field staff had grown to eight “analysts.” During the 2016 season, Alabama carried nine analysts. That included Steve Sarkisian and Mike Locksley, who had both been FBS head coaches earlier in their careers.
It’s normal for football coaches to hire coaches they’re familiar with. Saban is no exception. Defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt and defensive backs coach Derrick Ansley both worked elsewhere on the staff before later being hired as full-time assistants, too.
“When you’re given the opportunity to be in that role, I think certainly it gives the head coach the opportunity to evaluate you in that role,” Lupoi said. “If something does open down the line, there’s somewhat of a familiarity already established there, some possible candidates.”
There are innumerable other ways those positions help the program. Off-field assistants cannot recruit, but can often free up time for full-time assistants to optimize their schedules. The analysts can break down practice film, evaluate opponents and do whatever helps the on-field coaching staff. It helps distribute the workload.
That doesn’t mean there’s no pressure. There’s still a sharp focus on those staffers, especially those looking to become on-field coaches.
“You get to be seen by coach in a different light,” Cochran said. “Every day in that position is an interview.”
Plenty of analysts aren’t hired on staff, but many are hired elsewhere, like Napier. Former UA offensive coordinator Lane Kiffin took analyst Charlie Weis Jr. with him to FAU.
There’s opportunity to be had for those willing to take the year to learn. And there’s lots of learning to be done. Analysts get an inside look at one of the country’s preeminent programs and get to work with one of college football’s most successful coaches. Because they don’t have the responsibilities of a normal on-field assistant, they’re not limited to working with one position group. Analysts can float from one side of the ball to another, from a meeting room with players to a film session, and take it all in. Napier remembered using that time to observe and take notes on what was most important to him as a coach. Lupoi watched how the organization as a whole operated and saw the careful planning that went into each day.
“That’s really neat and a really cool experience to have,” Lupoi said. “I wouldn’t trade that for anything, for my time of maturing both as a coach and a man.”
All the extra support has come to be a trademark of Alabama under Saban, though the off-field staff has grown more robust in recent years. Napier had been Clemson’s offensive coordinator before he landed on staff in 2011. Voices like those of Bobby Williams, Sarkisian and Locksley – all former FBS coaches working off the field – provide perspective no other program has.
Off-field staffers also bring continuity to the staff. Alabama’s run of three straight playoff appearances and three straight SEC championships has been helped in part by a coaching staff with several former analysts.
When Lance Thompson left the staff, Lupoi was ready to step in. Napier was familiar with the team even though he hadn’t been a full-time assistant at Alabama. Locksley learned the program inside and out before moving on the field as an assistant.
“We don’t have time to slow down and teach everybody,” Napier said. “(Saban) likes to keep moving, stay on The Process. If you have a little bit of familiarity, you can get in there and go to work. You’ve seen it work. It continues to work. We’ve been able to sustain because of that.”
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:35 pm
Posted on 3/7/17 at 7:19 pm to TidalSurge1
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Pattern of The Process
There’s no singular skill or type of coach that Saban has hired at Alabama. Many of his recent hires had been former analysts, like Sarkisian and Locksley, but his final two assistants this offseason came from the NFL.
New offensive coordinator Brian Daboll arrived from the NFL’s New England Patriots and had never been a full-time assistant in college football. Tight ends coach Joe Pannunzio had extensive college experience, but was most recently director of personnel operations for the Philadelphia Eagles. He hadn’t been an on-field assistant since 2010.
Neither was a prototypical hire, and perhaps there is no prototype for Saban.
“Obviously he has something he looks for in assistant coaches when he hires assistant coaches,” offensive line coach Brent Key said. “I think his model is something that’s worked very well. He looks for highly-organized, disciplined guys that want to work hard that can relate to players and teach players, that can teach the philosophy of his program and relay those from the coaches to the players.”
Those skills aren’t always apparent to outsiders, whose first impression of a new coach is a regurgitation of his resume. But the interview to become an assistant at Alabama is much broader than that.
Key went through that process twice. He was a candidate at Alabama earlier in his career when Saban was looking for an offensive line coach. Interviewing with Saban is more than just a meeting in the head coach’s office.
“It’s a mix of a lot of things,” Key said. “Film work, drawing on the board, just casual conversations, meeting different people in the organization, all those kinds of things.”
The candidates who pass the test can come in many different forms. Daboll doesn’t fit the mold of Kiffin or Sarkisian before him. Kiffin’s style and background was different than those of Doug Nussmeier and Jim McElwain.
That’s been the case even with some of Saban’s earliest hires at Alabama. Kevin Steele was a veteran defensive assistant when he was hired at Alabama, but Saban brought Kirby Smart onto his staff at LSU at 28 years old. Smart was promoted to become Saban’s defensive coordinator at Alabama when he was just 32.
“I think (Saban) has learned a lot, that certain positions, I think he needs certain things, as everyone does,” Cochran said. “But I like when he takes risks on younger guys, because he has a feel. Like he took a risk on me. He took a risk on Kirby Smart. Hired him as a DB coach from being a GA. Just takes some good risks.”
‘100 percent, it’s him’
Even if it doesn’t look like it, there are common threads among Saban’s hires. Alabama’s head coach knows what separates good coaches from the rest.
“At the end of the day, it’s your ability to convey the X and O portion of it, your ability to communicate with the staff and have a relationship with the guys on the staff, and communicate with the players,” Key said.
That’s what he’s after as he builds a coaching staff. The construction keeps changing, and the offense and defense have changed. Saban remains the fixed point at the center of the program, rebuilding around him each year as needed.
The football offices will continue to be stocked with analysts, former head coaches, and assistants can come and go. None of those changes have slowed Alabama yet.
“It doesn’t matter. It’s (Saban),” Cochran said. “100 percent. it’s him. Hands down. It’s not even close. It’s him. You can put whoever you want in all those seats. It’s him.”
This post was edited on 3/7/17 at 10:33 pm
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