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re: Class of 2016 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Waiting On Demetris Robertson Edition

Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:47 pm to
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:47 pm to
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The main areas where this class is still lacking is RB and WR on offense


The good news with WRs is that we shouldn't lose any this year besides the transfer unless Robert Foster goes ham. We could also potentially add Cavin Ridley, but I think he is UF bound right now unless we turn up the heat on him.

As far as RBs go, I wasn't really sure where to begin. The two RBs that I picked are complete guesses. Although Saint just posted an article talking about how White wants to be able to step in to a position on the field his freshman year. He could be right behind Damien Harris on the depth chart, and we could run it like Lacy/Yeldon.

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DE's(more than 2 in this class),


I could potentially see Josh Casher's brother Darius Whitfield get a late offer as a DE. Other than that, this was another one I wasn't sure where to begin.

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stud safety


I see this as being a potentially unfilled hole unless Shawn Jennings turns out to be the real deal.

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Really a bit surprised we don't already have a 5-star RB committed with our history with the position coupled with our depth chart next year.



I am also surprised by this, but this isn't a great year for running backs.

I am also surprised there hasn't been a bigger Lane Kiffin/Tosh Lupoi effect on this class.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:50 pm to
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Throw in Greg Little and Marlon Davidson just for shits and giggles.



That would make our class score 313.40, which would be good enough for first place last year. If that happens, I swear I will receive my first banning from bumping threads on tSECrb. One of you will have to start the reinstatement thread. Hopefully the mods will be more gracious towards me than they have towards TreyAnastasio.
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 1:55 pm
Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:56 pm to
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TreyAnastasio


WTF did he do? He as been gone for a while?
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83421 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 1:57 pm to
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stud safety

I see this as being a potentially unfilled hole unless Shawn Jennings turns out to be the real deal.


Bone said yesterday to keep an eye on Jaquelle Green.

He's from the same high school as Kevin Norwood FWIW.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:04 pm to
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SOME POSITIONS MORE INVITING TO TRANSFERS
Kirk McNairKirk McNair
Earlier this week, Alabama received a commitment from that new class of class addition – the graduate transfer. Richard Mullaney played three years at Oregon Stgate and now is headed to Tuscaloosa for his final season of eligibility.

This is not a new phenomenon for Alabama football. Last year Jacob Coker left Florida State with a degree and two years of eligibility, and everyone expected him to be the Crimson Tide quarterback. As it turned out, Coker spent the 2014 season as the back-up to Blake Sims. seeing only limited duty as Bama followed the three A.J. McCarron seasons with a Southeastern Conference championship.

The Coker transfer may pay dividends for Alabama this year as the senior from Mobile is considered by most to be the leader for the Tide quarterback position. But, most considered him the leader last year, too.

Moving on to the addition of Richard Mullaney, there is a bit of a question as to what is to be gained by taking a player with just one year of eligibility.

First of all, the positions of wide receiver and quarterback involve great differences. From a team standpoint, the quarterback is usually the leader of the team. Wide receivers are less about the team and more about, “Hey, I’m open every play! Get me the ball.”

That’s what makes summer ball an important factor in team building. Coaches cannot be involved as players work out in what is known as “pass skel” work. Basically, it is quarterbacks and eligible receivers working on plays against linebackers and defensive backs. Obviously, it includes physical work, including passing and pass catching, that can be valuable in the fall.

More than that, perhaps, is the leadership aspect, meaning from the quarterbacks. Almost everyone attributes part of Sims’ success in winning the job last year to his relationship with his teammates, built over several years and polished last summer after the departure of McCarron.

A big question about Alabama’s 2015 season is how the quarterbacks are measuring up to their teammates in Alabama’s hot 2015 summer.
Tide Coach Nick Saban pointed out last spring that it wasn’t up to the coaching staff to choose a quarterback. It is up to the quarterback candidates to earn the position.

In considering the addition of Mullaney to the Alabama squad, there is quite another difference between quarterbacks and wide receivers. This year’s Crimson Tide team is looking for a replacement for Sims at quarterback. Many pre-season outlooks naturally point to Bama’s need also to replace Amari Cooper, one of the finest wide receivers in college football history.

True, but Alabama also must replace wide receivers DeAndrew White and Christion Jones and there is a question about when Cameron Sims might return from injury.
A longtime trend has been that teams play just one quarterback as long as he is healthy. The back-up gets some practice reps and mop-up work when the game is decided. Therefore, the addition of a quarterback with just one year to play is somewhat risky. The quarterback must master the playbook, learn his teammates from a timing standpoint, and become the leader in a short time if he is going to be that one guy.

A wide receiver, on the other hand, is one of a number who will play. In Alabama’s offense, there will almost always be two wide receivers and about as often as not there will be three wide men in the lineup. Moreover, substitution is frequent at the wide receiver spots, so instead of one man playing there could be a half dozen or more in the wide receiver rotation.

In the spring, the position was a bit thin to be adequate at X (split end), Z (flanker), and H (slot). Ardarius Stewart and Robert Foster had impressive A-Day performances. Chris Black came to Bama with a fine reputation, but also with an injury that kept him back. Raheem Falkins and Derrick Kief have been waiting their turns. Former walk-on Parker Barrineau could be one of the surprises for the Tide this fall. Deionte Thompson worked in the secondary early in the spring, then moved to wide receiver.

Calvin Ridley enters The University this year with tremendous credentials and Daylon Charlot’s accomplishments and rankings aren’t far behind.

Wide receiver is based so much on sheer athletic ability that it is possible for a Thompson to move from defense to offense and become productive. Similarly, Mullaney can come from a different system and begin to fit in during summer drills and earn his spot in fall camp.

Over the years, junior college transfers at some positions, even with two years to play, frequently have had problems making the adjustment to major college football. The offs of a graduate transfer making the transition are probably better than those of a junior college player, but one year (which will be the norm) is cutting it close.

Just as players coming from high school to college, one could expect certain positions – quarterback, offensive line – to be more difficult in the transition than others – wide receiver, running back, safety.


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Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
13031 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:06 pm to
I hope we finish(so some expected and some wishlist here)I will list who I think we may land

QB-No more even if Pass wanted in

RB-White or Sanders I think we push hard for one of them as well as Whaley. I think we only land 1 but would like to get 2

WR-Darnell Salamon, and one of Ridley, Young, or M Jones. I agree D Robertson would be ideal

TE-I think we are done

OL-Jauan Williams and I actually like our chances to flip Little. The TX kids have been the big prize in the end for us lately

DT-I worry about the MS kid but if we hold onto to these two I think that is how we finish. Unless we can get Gary or either Lawerence

DE-I agree with 2 here but not sure in the end. Seem to be wide open. If I had a choice of course it would be M Davidson but he seems all AU.

LB-Davis and Wilson, with either D Jackson or T Lamar

DB Jennings, D Anderson, or Nigil Knott(1 of those 3.

Ideal finish me:
D White
D Salomon
D Robertson
J Williams
G Little
X Kelly(M Davidson 1st but no chance it seems)
R Gary
D Jackson or T Lamar
B Davis
M Wilson
N Knott
S Jennings
D Anderson

We have 15 committed but the kicker already said he was looking to enroll in January. I think we sign 27.

Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 2:56 pm to
BugaPainTrain7, the newest edition of Memphis, thinks that they have a good chance at Ben Davis and Mack Wilson. LINK


This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5490 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:25 pm to
We'll sign at least 3 more DLmen. I'd move Michail Carter to the top of your list. He's viewed as elite by our staff. We currently lead. Good chance we sign 28, but at least 27.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5490 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:27 pm to
There's a better chance of Leonard Fournette transferring to Bama than them signing Davis. About as good a chance for Wilson.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5490 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 3:27 pm to
I should also mention that we likely shut it down with OT recruiting if we could get Little to flip. The feeling isn't as good as a couple weeks ago, but we're still right in the thick of it.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
16172 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:07 pm to
So bugatrain = memphis or hes just a recruiting hack like memphis is?? Either way he is really just saying they are higher on the board. Yea he is being a bit of homer thinking they have a chance, but we have a few of those too.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:09 pm to
He's come on the SECrb before and said that they would land Davis. Probably just trolling.

I am 99% sure that Buga is Memphis.
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:24 pm to
@RapSheet: The #Bengals announced the release of QB Terrelle Pryor, which likely means former #Bama QB AJ McCarron will be the backup.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18095 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:25 pm to
no surprise. word is AJ has been doing really well at OTAs
Posted by sarc
Member since Mar 2011
9997 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 4:28 pm to
It'd be interesting to see P Sims and AJ as starting QBs on opposing NFL teams one day. Recommence some old debates
This post was edited on 6/18/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5490 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:40 pm to
Not sure if this has been posted in here or not. It might have been earlier and I just missed it. But RB Demetrice Vaughan from Blount is walking on with us this Fall. His highlight film is extremely impressive for a walk-on. There are some concerns about his grades and height, apparently (about 5'8"-ish on a good day). When he was a 9th grader some were projecting him to be one of the elite RBs in the country by this time. But he has some of the best walk-on film I've ever seen. See for yourselves.

Hudl
Posted by Tide or Die87
Huntsville, AL
Member since Jan 2012
13360 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:50 pm to
Film looks good he just looks slow.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18095 posts
Posted on 6/18/15 at 9:57 pm to
really good vision. not much top end speed
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 1:03 am to
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Luke Stampini ?@LukeStampini 17h17 hours ago
Top247 WR Tyler Vaughns talks about plans to visit Bama, UGA & UF, plus where USC fits in.
Posted by Bama3714
Alabama
Member since Feb 2015
5490 posts
Posted on 6/19/15 at 2:59 am to
About what I thought. REALLY good for the first 20 yards or so. Initial quickness doesn't look like the problem. Just merely top-end speed.

He's a brute to bring down, though. And the vision is very good.
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