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re: Bama Softball Roster 2024-25
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:03 am to AHM21
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:03 am to AHM21
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Credit to Cohen for knowing you aren’t going to win big with small ball.
Listen, I have serious issues with Murph. But what is the definition of winning big here? Winning the national title?
Alabama has fielded an atrocious offense for going on 6ish years now, and here's where they finished
2019 - #3 (CWS)
2021 - #4 (CWS)
2022 - #32 (Regional)
2023 - #8 (CWS)
2024 - #5 (CWS)
I hate the way they play, the lack of offensive development and the overall malaise of things while other programs seem to be pressing forward along with knowing they likely can't beat the 2-3 elite teams to win it all.
But if the new family gang at Auburn goes to 4 CWS in the next 5 years and 5 NCAA Tournaments, they are going to build the sweet couple a damn statue, whereas we are discussing how we've been passed by and need to either make drastic changes or let the coach go.
Tennessee and their 1995 Cleveland Indians offense has been to 1 WCWS in the last decade.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 11:09 am
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Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:10 am to Temple of the Dog
Alabama should’ve advanced to being one of those top tier programs that you expect to make it to the championship series. What you posted shows a decline even in the last 3-5 years. That being after Auburn ran off their best coach ever who was about to have Auburn as a better overall program.
Auburn was 2-1 against Alabama this past season. Auburn has a more recent championship appearance than Alabama. The problem here might not be that this hire elevates Auburn to a top program. The problem might be that it elevates Auburn back to or even above Alabama when it comes to the SEC.
Auburn was 2-1 against Alabama this past season. Auburn has a more recent championship appearance than Alabama. The problem here might not be that this hire elevates Auburn to a top program. The problem might be that it elevates Auburn back to or even above Alabama when it comes to the SEC.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 11:11 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:16 am to AHM21
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Auburn was 2-1 against Alabama this past season.
Regular season series in softball and baseball are as close to irrelevant in the macro as you can get.
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The problem might be that it elevates Auburn back to or even above Alabama when it comes to the SEC.
Maybe, but right now the SEC in terms of winning games when it all matters is Alabama/Florida and the 12 dwarfs (OU/Texas will enter that category). Nobody else in the current league has done anything in terms of consistent postseason success. The only two schools that are consistent players on the national stage are Alabama and Florida.
Again, Murph is super flawed. It might all fall apart in the postseason starting next year. But for all the flaws he is clearly an elite coach at navigating the postseason. That isn't all that matters, but it definitely matters.
Winning a regional and a super regional in modern softball is really damn hard. Doing it basically every season is something that only 5-6 schools do (Alabama, Florida, Oklahoma, UCLA, Oklahoma State).
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:21 am to Temple of the Dog
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Regular season series in softball and baseball are as close to irrelevant in the macro as you can get.
Not really. Win the series should be the goal. And clearly with the conference record this year it shows that Alabama is falling to a middle of the pack team in the conference, even if they did go 1-2 in OKC.
They were gifted that 14 seed.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 11:22 am to Temple of the Dog
CHANGE THE HITTING COACH AND THE OFFENSIVE PHILOSOPHY.
THAT'S THE ISSUE!
SO LETS GET IT HANDLED
THAT'S THE ISSUE!
SO LETS GET IT HANDLED
Posted on 6/5/24 at 12:37 pm to Joka2kold
Couldn’t find a way to copy it but here’s the link to Marlie’s announcement returning for Team 29. Requires an instagram login
Marlie's Instagram post
Marlie's Instagram post
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:03 pm to Temple of the Dog
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he is clearly an elite coach at navigating the postseason
Is he though? We were gifted a path to the WCWS last year and this year had no business hosting a regional. That Bama on the jersey does a lot to grease the wheels for him in postseason.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 1:46 pm to Temple of the Dog
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Again, Murph is super flawed. It might all fall apart in the postseason starting next year. But for all the flaws he is clearly an elite coach at navigating the postseason. That isn't all that matters, but it definitely matters.
You gotta get to the postseason first. How close did we come to not even making it this year? An early out in the conference tournament and a losing record in the conference doesn’t get every team in to the postseason. That’s where the Crimson jersey and the facilities bought us a ticket. And even if the team does get in, with that record most won’t host a regional. Playing at home certainly helped Alabama come out of that bracket. Who knows if they even make it if they have to go on the road and play in a different regional A strong argument could be made the answer would be no.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:13 pm to phil4bama
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You gotta get to the postseason first. How close did we come to not even making it this year? An early out in the conference tournament and a losing record in the conference doesn’t get every team in to the postseason. That’s where the Crimson jersey and the facilities bought us a ticket.
What? You think we only made the postseason because we were Alabama? Were #16 in the RPI. We went 20-0 vs Q2-4 and won 19 games vs Q1. We went 23-2 out of conference against the #22 national non-conference SOS.
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Playing at home certainly helped Alabama come out of that bracket. Who knows if they even make it if they have to go on the road and play in a different regional A strong argument could be made the answer would be no.
Then we went and won 2 out of 3 at the #3 overall seed in the whole tournament. So could we have lost on the road at a #15 or #16 seed? Sure, maybe. Then again the non-SEC higher seeds were #10 Duke, #13 Louisiana and #15 FSU. Arizona won the Arkansas regional. We went 4-0 against those teams.
We see issues because they exist. We've also accomplished more in the last 5 years than all but probably 10 programs have in the last 25 years. So it's reasonable to both want improvement or even change and not act like things are awful and everyone sucks.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:14 pm to RollTide33
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We were gifted a path to the WCWS last year and this year
We won a road series against the #3 overall seed. #1, #2, #4, #5, #6 and #8 all advanced to OKC. Nothing about that is a "gift".
The prior season? Sure, I can agree with that. They should not have been a Top 8 seed and they got a relatively weak super opponent in Northwestern. But they earned that trip this year.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:39 pm to Temple of the Dog
Lauren Johnson is returning . Sorry no link
Posted on 6/5/24 at 2:55 pm to Temple of the Dog
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Nothing about that is a "gift".
You cut off the second part of my sentence saying "this year we had no business hosting a regional." The gifted statement was about 2023. Although you could still argue we were gifted a regional host we didn't deserve just because we have some of the best facilities.
Posted on 6/5/24 at 6:26 pm to RollTide33
If Alabama doesn’t lead the nation in attendance and have the proper facilities, they don’t host this year. I was honestly shocked to see us get a regional. I agree as well - a regional on the road and this team likely doesn’t explode offensively like they did in Tuscaloosa.
The committee dealt us an amazing draw.
The committee dealt us an amazing draw.
This post was edited on 6/5/24 at 6:28 pm
Posted on 6/6/24 at 9:44 pm to Temple of the Dog
Defense doesn't win championships anymore.
Having a high powered EFFICIENT OFFENSE does.
Having a high powered EFFICIENT OFFENSE does.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 12:11 am to Joka2kold
Oklahoma just won their 4th straight natty. They win with offense. During that four year run here's how many home runs Alabama and Oklahoma have hit:
2024 Alabama 42/ OU 121
2023 Alabama 56/ OU 117
2022 Alabama 51/OU 155
2021 Alabama 41/OU 161
Small ball might win you games and get you to the WCWS but you aren't winning titles with it...period. One positive though is Alexis Pupillo transferring in from Northern Iowa hit 19 home runs this year and 17 last year as a freshman, which is more than any Alabama player has had since before 2020.
2024 Alabama 42/ OU 121
2023 Alabama 56/ OU 117
2022 Alabama 51/OU 155
2021 Alabama 41/OU 161
Small ball might win you games and get you to the WCWS but you aren't winning titles with it...period. One positive though is Alexis Pupillo transferring in from Northern Iowa hit 19 home runs this year and 17 last year as a freshman, which is more than any Alabama player has had since before 2020.
This post was edited on 6/7/24 at 12:12 am
Posted on 6/7/24 at 6:36 am to BamaDude06
I watched a lot of the WCWS and OU had most of their batters making great contact. I saw few strikeouts. They had a couple that would small ball it but top to bottom they had great hitters.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 8:04 am to mrbroker
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I watched a lot of the WCWS and OU had most of their batters making great contact. I saw few strikeouts. They had a couple that would small ball it but top to bottom they had great hitters.
This. I’ve watched them during this 4peat run. They make contact, they swing away, and they hit the ball HARD! Sure, they have some pitchers that can deal, but they are balanced. They put up runs too and it’s not with small ball. This is a blueprint of how you compete in today’s college softball world.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 10:49 am to BamaDude06
Alexis Pupillo is transferring in to be coached by Patrick Murphy so those 19 home runs just went out the window.
We all know they regress under Murphy.
Shipman was a prime example.
We all know they regress under Murphy.
Shipman was a prime example.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 10:57 am to phil4bama
How you win in the olympics or international ball. Small ball does not cut it. Of course you are also facing the best pitchers in the world.
Posted on 6/7/24 at 11:01 am to mrbroker
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