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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:04 pm to UltimaParadox
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:04 pm to UltimaParadox
I’m not either. Najee probably peaked the second half of the season. He showed good hands, power, blocking and decent vision. He’s not getting any faster so he really has nothing to gain. Just more wear and tear and the possibility of injury.
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:20 pm to phil4bama
Only possibility I can think of is how deep this year's running back class is. Despite how well he closed out the season he could end up outside the top 5 backs drafted and backs don't go as high anymore anyway.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 10:45 pm to remaster916
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Bama really needs to sign another TE. Jones won't be in this class and George might be a casualty if most of the juniors come back.
Not sure on Baker and Burroughs.
I would sign Baker, Burroughs and a TE and trim the numbers on current players who will never see meaningful snaps next year. Lashley, Owens, DeLong, Brannon, Parker, Knott.
I'm pretty sure George already signed. We just have to wait and see how potential additional signees and roster departures play out. I'm tracking it here: 2020 Projected Roster. I do it every year in the pinned Football Recruiting & Roster thread.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 12:42 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 12:07 am to RollTide33
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Only possibility I can think of is how deep this year's running back class is. Despite how well he closed out the season he could end up outside the top 5 backs drafted and backs don't go as high anymore anyway.
What? You talking about Najee?
Posted on 1/3/20 at 6:51 am to LATIDER
Yep. Hopefully if he declares his strong finish to the season will boost his stock. But I think the highest projection I've seen for him has been around the 6th back off the board.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:33 am to RollTide33
LINK
Money amounts by selection by round for this past NFL draft.
Rd 1 #32 10 million contract with 5 million sign bonus
Rd 2 #64 4.5 million and 1.35 sign bonus
Rd 3 #102 3.4 million and 822 sign bonus
all 4 year contracts. That signing bonus is pretty much all the guaranteed money you will get if you don't make the team after year one of even during year one. Thus all 2 round thru 7 is a one year deal and they can cut you and cost them nothing but the wasted draft slot.
Money amounts by selection by round for this past NFL draft.
Rd 1 #32 10 million contract with 5 million sign bonus
Rd 2 #64 4.5 million and 1.35 sign bonus
Rd 3 #102 3.4 million and 822 sign bonus
all 4 year contracts. That signing bonus is pretty much all the guaranteed money you will get if you don't make the team after year one of even during year one. Thus all 2 round thru 7 is a one year deal and they can cut you and cost them nothing but the wasted draft slot.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 7:47 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
that set up there, is cold blooded. i realize they had to do something. but man they cut the throats of everyone not signed in the 1st round.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:12 am to UltimaParadox
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Not sure he has anything to gain coming back
I think he’s got a lot to gain. There could conceivably be 5 running backs ahead of him in this draft
Dobbins
Etienne
Hubbard
Akers
Taylor
He’s kind of in the same boat as Smitty and Ruggs. Come out in a loaded class or hang around another year and be the top guy at your position. I think Najee is a guy that could improve his draft stock considerably with another year. I know the consensus is “go get the money” for running backs, but their first contract is more important than any other position. They’ve got the shortest shelf life. It isn’t like Najee has a bunch of wear and tear
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:16 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
NFL teams don't cut 2nd or 3rd round picks less than a year or two into their contracts. In fact, most of those players remain on the 53 man roster of the team that drafted them for the duration of the contract. "They'll cut you because all they lose is a draft pick" is not a smart way of looking at it. NFL coaches and GMs covet draft picks. They aren't going to cut a 2nd round pick because he struggles in his first preseason.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:27 am to Riseupfromtherubble
I think it’s more about this than about winning like the other guys.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:31 am to Robot Santa
The NFL will cut their mistakes regardless to which year. The deal is all these 2-7 rounders get all their guaranteed money in year one thus they're on their on as far as dollars owed and have to make the cut again to get that agreed to salary.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 8:56 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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The NFL will cut their mistakes regardless to which year
They will, but they generally don't.
If you cut a 3rd rounder in Year 2 you have to replace him on the roster with somebody, and in all likelihood that somebody will be a veteran who costs much more.
Economics of the modern NFL is the reason teams give their own picks a million chances before they give up on them. Their cost is so much less than the cost of an out of organization replacement, and most teams have razor thin margins with the salary cap and cannot afford to replace one sub average player with another for $500K-1M more.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 8:58 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:01 am to SummerOfGeorge
MSU firing Joe Moorhead. I’d love to trade Butch Jones for him.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 9:02 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:04 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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The NFL will cut their mistakes regardless to which year. The deal is all these 2-7 rounders get all their guaranteed money in year one thus they're on their on as far as dollars owed and have to make the cut again to get that agreed to salary.
This is not true. Almost all 2nd round picks get 2 year guarantees now. Additionally, NFL teams just do not cut guys taken in the first half of the draft until they have given the guy every chance they can to play well. You do not understand how the NFL works at all. FOs do not treat young players they invested a high draft pick in the way they treat a 10 year vet on a 2 or 3 year heavily incentivized contract where cutting him after one year if he plays like shite does in fact cost them nothing.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:17 am to SummerOfGeorge
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If you cut a 3rd rounder in Year 2 you have to replace him on the roster with somebody, and in all likelihood that somebody will be a veteran who costs much more.
Exactly this. Rookie contracts are cheap. Quality FAs are not. If you cut a 3rd round pick during his 2nd preseason then that pick and the cheap contract that came with it are just gone and there is no way of getting it back in a subsequent draft without giving up assets in a trade or getting a compensatory pick when you let a former pick entering FA walk.
Additionally, let's say you're an NFL GM and your team's 3rd round pick is 70th overall. You draft a player and he doesn't play well in his first season. Then you and your HC decide to cut him during the final round of cuts before his 2nd season. What does that say to your employer? It says that your talent evaluation skills fricking suck because you thought a guy who turned out to be literally valueless to an NFL team was one of the top 70 players available in the draft.
This post was edited on 1/3/20 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:25 am to LATIDER
Revenge tour is now set
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:29 am to Finkle is Einhorn
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Finkle is Einhorn
You can't leave it like that. Time to "list" what/who set means.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:39 am to Finkle is Einhorn
Gotta be more specific man...give us the details.
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:43 am to mistaken4193
Posted on 1/3/20 at 9:43 am to mistaken4193
McKinney back
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