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Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:48 pm to IB4bama
Posted on 4/21/20 at 1:48 pm to IB4bama
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We need to come out of the gate winning. We put ourselves on the bubble every year by throwing away games in Nov and Dec.
The only season that we didn't do that in the post-Gottfried era were 2010, 2015 and 2016, and we didn't really win any good games in 2015 OOC. 2010/2016 were CAG and CAJ first seasons.
Record entering conference play (bad losses)
2010: 10-4 (Cornell, but they went 29-5 and went to the Sweet 16)
2011: 8-6 (Seton Hall, Iowa, St Peters, Providence, Ok St)
2012: 11-3 (@ Dayton)
2013: 8-5 (Dayton, Mercer, Tulane)
2014: 6-7 (Drexel, USF)
2015: 10-3 (none)
2016: 9-3 (none)
2017: 7-5 (Dayton, Valpo)
2018: 8-4 (UCF, @ Texas)
2019: 9-3 (Northeastern, @ UCF, Ga St)
2020: 7-5 (Penn, UNC, Iowa St)
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:13 pm to Gary Busey
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Man frick Dayton
As we all know Alabama's biggest basketball rivals are, in no certain order:
- Dayton
- Wichita State
- Xavier
- Creighton
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:08 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:14 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Wichita State and their fans can go straight to hell. Arrogant pricks
Posted on 4/21/20 at 2:18 pm to phil4bama
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we are going to be a dangerous team.
Actually, two out of the last three years we’ve been a dangerous team. Scar’s coached note two years against that teams wouldn’t want to play Alabama.
Good health and culture change is going to take us from dangerous to formidable.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:34 pm to saban n bear
**Updated**
What we know so far about next seasons National Championship Run...
PG: Jahvon Quinerly
SG: Jaden Shackelford/Keon Ellis
SF: Josh Primo/Juwan Gary/Darius Miles
PF: James Rojas/Keon Ambrose-Hylton
C: Jordan Bruner/Javian Davis
Testing NBA Stock, somewhere around 50/50 on coming back
John Petty
Kira Lewis (ENTERING NBA DRAFT)
Herbert Jones
Possible Processed Victims (Hopefully), but gotta wait and see
Alex Reese
Jaylen Forbes (TRANSFER PORTAL)
Likely Gone
Galin Smith
What we know so far about next seasons National Championship Run...
PG: Jahvon Quinerly
SG: Jaden Shackelford/Keon Ellis
SF: Josh Primo/Juwan Gary/Darius Miles
PF: James Rojas/Keon Ambrose-Hylton
C: Jordan Bruner/Javian Davis
Testing NBA Stock, somewhere around 50/50 on coming back
John Petty
Kira Lewis (ENTERING NBA DRAFT)
Herbert Jones
Possible Processed Victims (Hopefully), but gotta wait and see
Alex Reese
Jaylen Forbes (TRANSFER PORTAL)
Likely Gone
Galin Smith
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:39 pm to saban n bear
Oats said Reese never was healthy last year, and could have his hip surgery as early as next week.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:47 pm to CrimsonFever
A hip injury he could play through is very likely a labrum issue, which really makes him an enigma to me. He would have been playing through a lot of pain even with pregame shots, but he also plays some of the softest basketball you'll ever see. Even when he's in position on defense he tries to avoid contact and you rarely see him fight hard for rebounds. Playing through a painful injury is the exact opposite of what you'd expect from a player like him. Herb playing one handed with a cast on his wrist is in line with the kind of player he is.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:52 pm to Robot Santa
I dunno, that may have been the type of injury that any kind of jostling or contact would have aggravated and caused more pain. He may have been avoiding contact because it hurt like a mofo. Far be it from me to give Reese a pass regarding his softness, but if excruciating pain was the cause, I can certainly rationalize some of his play.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:56 pm to phil4bama
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:56 pm to CrimsonFever
Even if he gets fully healthy, I only see him playing if Bruner or Rojas get in foul trouble
Posted on 4/21/20 at 3:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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As we all know Alabama's biggest basketball rivals are, in no certain order:
- Dayton
- Wichita State
- Xavier
Creighton has to be on the list somewhere, no?
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:00 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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2011: 8-6 (Seton Hall, Iowa, St Peters, Providence, Ok St)
2012: 11-3 (@ Dayton)
2013: 8-5 (Dayton, Mercer, Tulane)
2014: 6-7 (Drexel, USF)
2015: 10-3 (none)
2016: 9-3 (none)
2017: 7-5 (Dayton, Valpo)
2018: 8-4 (UCF, @ Texas)
2019: 9-3 (Northeastern, @ UCF, Ga St)
2020: 7-5 (Penn, UNC, Iowa St)
If you went back and changed half of those bad losses from 2011 and 2013 into wins I bet Grant never gets fired. He did well in conference play those years. Granted that was back when the SEC was a joke outside of Kentucky and Florida, but without the OOC disasters it still would have been good enough to make the tournament. 3 trips to the NCAA tournament in a row and he'd have been safe for a while to continue learning on the job. It really is incredible how just a handful of games over the course of ~100 in a coach's first few seasons can make the difference between savior and scapegoat.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:06 pm to Robot Santa
Oats seemed to refer to Ambrose as a big today.
I wonder if he envisions Ambrose as growing into a 5, he is basically the same size as Donta Hall was coming out of HS.
Ambrose did get 22 rebounds in a game going against the number 1 center prospect Makur Maker last season.
I wonder if he envisions Ambrose as growing into a 5, he is basically the same size as Donta Hall was coming out of HS.
Ambrose did get 22 rebounds in a game going against the number 1 center prospect Makur Maker last season.
This post was edited on 4/21/20 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:07 pm to Robot Santa
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If you went back and changed half of those bad losses from 2011 and 2013 into wins I bet Grant never gets fired. He did well in conference play those years. Granted that was back when the SEC was a joke outside of Kentucky and Florida, but without the OOC disasters it still would have been good enough to make the tournament. 3 trips to the NCAA tournament in a row and he'd have been safe for a while to continue learning on the job. It really is incredible how just a handful of games over the course of ~100 of a coach's first few seasons can make the difference between savior and scapegoat.
2011
- 21-11 (12-4), RPI #80 (end of regular season)
- Losses to : #104 Seton Hall (by 5), #189 Iowa (by 8), #93 Saint Peter's (by 1), @ #157 Providence (by 12)
- Win 2 of those 4 games and our RPI is in the high 50s and we make the tournament
2013
- 20-12 (12-6), RPI #60 (end of regular season)
- Losses to : #115 Dayton (by 5), #118 Mercer (by 7), #173 Tulane (by 3)
- Win 2 of those 3 games and that team has an RPI of 45-50 and makes the tournament
Literally change the outcome of 4 close games over a 4 year period and Grant goes from 1 NCAAT in 4 years to 3 NCAATs in 4 years.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:08 pm to Chadaristic
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Creighton has to be on the list somewhere, no?
Of course, great point Chad
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:16 pm to CrimsonFever
Oats referred to Primo as a 6'6 PG, that can also play the two, but the way he talked I'd say it's a certainty that Primo is gonna be the PG most of the time when Quinerly isn't in the game.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:19 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Well, as for me, I hate Providence. Not God, Providence, rather that crappy little school that always shoots 67% from 3 against us.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:32 pm to LovetheLord
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I hate Providence
I'll never forget when #2 seed Alabama lost to Billy Donovan's Providence team in 1987.
Wimp had Derrick McKey, Jim Farmer, Mark Gottfried, Michael Ansley, Keith Askins, and Craig Dudley on that team.
Posted on 4/21/20 at 4:34 pm to LovetheLord
Yeah, me and Love the Lord obviously remember some little snot-nosed kid named Donovan and a cocky young coach too big for his britches named Pitino ruining one of the best chances we ever had to make the Final Four.
When we blow a chance, it's to some marquis names. Knight and his undefeated National Champion Indiana squad, Pitino and Providence, National Champion UConn under Jim Calhoun. When we've had a chance to be great, we run into some unbelievable teams.
When we blow a chance, it's to some marquis names. Knight and his undefeated National Champion Indiana squad, Pitino and Providence, National Champion UConn under Jim Calhoun. When we've had a chance to be great, we run into some unbelievable teams.
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