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re: All you Milroe fans step up and get some
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:50 am to C W
Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:50 am to C W
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Statistics can be manipulated to show about anything
LOL, alright
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but 56% completion pct is cut and dried.
8/10 vs Utah State - same accuracy rate
0/2 vs ULM - both inaccurate
4/6 vs Vanderbilt - both his incompletions vs Vandy were accurate throws.
4/9 vs Arkansas - 1 throwaway, 1 drop, 1 accurate incompletion
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Other than the short passes
Other than short passes Bryce was sitting at around 25% until this past weekend. Other than short passes Tua was on roughly the same place in 2018/2019.
Just throwing out short passes seems pretty silly considering how a lot of our previous QBs padded their stats with them.
We'll see what he is this weekend if he plays. He'll be QB1 in practice all week and have a playsheet developed for his skills. As noted before, Mac's passing numbers in 2 years of mop up duty were horrible. He turned out to be a pretty accurate thrower. We'll see how it goes.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 10:52 am
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Posted on 10/5/22 at 10:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
Milroe to date in 2022
Within 10 yds of LOS
15/16, 133 yds, 8.3 YPA, 2 TD/0 INT
10+ yards downfield
1/8, 18 yds, 2.3 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT
Very 2016/17 Jalen Hurts-esque. With our backs, speed WRs, OL and his running ability, I feel like we should be able to craft a solid plan for a week against a good but definitely not great defense. We'll find out (and it all might be moot).
Within 10 yds of LOS
15/16, 133 yds, 8.3 YPA, 2 TD/0 INT
10+ yards downfield
1/8, 18 yds, 2.3 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT
Very 2016/17 Jalen Hurts-esque. With our backs, speed WRs, OL and his running ability, I feel like we should be able to craft a solid plan for a week against a good but definitely not great defense. We'll find out (and it all might be moot).
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 10:57 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:10 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Other than short passes Bryce was sitting at around 25% until this past weekend
Why in the world would we exclude a game? He played very the week before as well. I seriously doubt 25% on intermediate and long passes are correct. Show us an updated chart or statistics from an unbiased source.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:12 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Milroe to date in 2022 10+ yards downfield 1/8, 18 yds, 2.3 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT
Now that I believe and it’s horrible
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:13 am to C W
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He’s just not an elite qb , is not going to be
I wouldn't say that he will not be. Playing behind Bryce and having to come in off of the bench in that type of environment there are alot of emotions for a inexperienced player like Milroe. I would imagine most of the thought process would be not to screw anything up, so of course he would hold things back to not do so.
Like this play first read was open, complete the pass and move on. Nothing crazy.
Next play was offensive PI to Jojo, then keep it simple go right back to him.
Easy pass and catch, create a flow and rhythm. He practices everyday but game speed is something entirely different.
Then the big run play. It looks to me, he goes through all of his reads and start to feel the pocket collapsing, steps up for more time and takes off. All receivers were covered from what I can see and I think any quarterback would make this exact same play.
I think more time and development he very well could be.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:14 am to C W
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Why in the world would we exclude a game?
Because it was on a similar number of attempts through the first quarter of the season before he hit a few and took off.
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I seriously doubt 25% on intermediate and long passes are correct. Show us an updated chart or statistics from an unbiased source.
We had a whole thread on it
Throws 20+ yards down field
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65. Bryce Young (Alabama) (1/7, 38 yds, 5.4 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)
The only 2 Power 5 QBs with a worse NFL QB Rating on passes > 20 yards down the field are
66. Jeff Sims (Georgia Tech) (1/8, 38 yds, 4.8 YPA, 0 TD/2 INT)
67. Kedon Slovis (Pitt) (1/7, 20 yds, 2.9 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:15 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:14 am to SummerOfGeorge
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We'll see what he is this weekend if he plays. He'll be QB1 in practice all week and have a playsheet developed for his skills. As noted before, Mac's passing numbers in 2 years of mop up duty were horrible. He turned out to be a pretty accurate thrower. We'll see how it goes.
I expect he will play well enough vs a&m to win. I hope Young is back by Tennessee.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:15 am to C W
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I hope Young is back by Tennessee.
Absolutely. With him I feel pretty confident we pick them apart.
Without him I'm very very nervous.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:16 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
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We had a whole thread on it
I didn’t find a link to the source but i did notice the date is 9/21 so that was only the first 3 games
Edit: that shows intermediate and long passes Young was 18 for 33. That’s 55%. Not 25%
Deep (20+ yds)
65. Bryce Young (Alabama) (1/7, 38 yds, 5.4 YPA, 0 TD/1 INT)
Intermediate (10-19 yds)
10. Bryce Young (Alabama) (17/26, 275 yds, 10.6 YPA, 4 TD/0 INT)
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:23 am to C W
Deep throws was what I was discussing.
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
Oh well, your stats show Milroe is 1 for 8 ans 18 yards over just 10 yard passes
Not even sure why we’re comparing Milroe to Young at all. Hes not in the same zip code
Not even sure why we’re comparing Milroe to Young at all. Hes not in the same zip code
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:27 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:26 am to C W
Obviously not
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:29 am to C W
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Simpson is a true freshman. Do you think that may have something to do with it?
Sure. But as far back as 2009, AJ McCarron won the backup role as a true freshman
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:34 am to Glorious
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But as far back as 2009, AJ McCarron won the backup role as a true freshman
No he didn’t. He redshirted but won the starting job the next season.
Star Jackson was the backup in 2009.
Downvote all you want to but it’s a fact. We hate facts sometimes
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:38 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:38 am to C W
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No he didn’t. He redshirted but won the starting job the next season.
At some point Saban said “if something happened to Greg, AJ would have started”
I am 100% positive on this
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NEWPORT BEACH, Calif. | University of Alabama coach Nick Saban said Wednesday that freshman quarterback A.J. McCarron has overtaken Star Jackson as the Crimson Tide’s No. 2 quarterback and would play if starter Greg McElroy were to be injured in tonight’s BCS title game against Texas.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:40 am to Glorious
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At some point Saban said “if something happened to Greg, AJ would have started”
Which is entirely different thing and it’s conjecture but was roundly considered a possibility. Same difference this go round. It the unthinkable happened the rest of this year its ma guess that Simpson would be qb by the end of the year.
Great discussion.
This post was edited on 10/5/22 at 11:41 am
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:43 am to C W
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It the unthinkable happened the rest of this year its ma guess that Simpson would be qb by the end of the year. Great discussion.
What more do you need other than the guy Saban rolled out in a contested road game against a ranked opponent?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 11:45 am to Glorious
AJ McCarron didn’t throw a single pass that year and I don’t think he started a single game.
He was the 2nd best qb though he was just a freshman. Same as this year
He was the 2nd best qb though he was just a freshman. Same as this year
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:37 pm to C W
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Same difference this go round. It the unthinkable happened the rest of this year its ma guess that Simpson would be qb by the end of the year.
We have seen Ty Simpson get zero(0) meaningful snaps. We simply do not know how good of a QB Ty Simpson is. Where is your supreme confidence in him coming from?
Posted on 10/5/22 at 12:48 pm to Glorious
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What more do you need other than the guy Saban rolled out in a contested road game against a ranked opponent?
I mean some NFL teams carry a dual threat backup because if the starter does leave the game it gives the other team a different look and something they didn't prepare for.
IDK Saban's mindset, but it could be part of the reason Milroe was first off the bench. Milroe also just has more experience in general, which is the most obvious thing.
Ultimately we all are just spitballing and I hope we don't have to find out who is right. Its an entirely different conversation when we start talking about going into next year with Bryce probably in the NFL.
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