re: Alabama Board Coronavirus Thread

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Listening to him adds no more value then another medical expert offering the opposite opinion.

I am not completely disagreeing with him but also not naive to take everything someone like him says as the gospel.

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I think that's a good approach (to add it to your overall consideration), and part of the reason why it's confusing for the average person, because the scientific data either seems to be conflicting, or there are conflicting opinions on what the data actually means.

Unfortunately, at some point scientific research has seemed to become fused with politics.

Likely not associated with Covid.

He even pointed out that things have happened to children and that it is very rare. Unfortunately people focus on the very rare. How many people in this world? How many of those cases? Not many.

The problem is you don't ever get to hear the growing side of doctors who agree this is overblown. Almost all media has their agenda and it mostly leans one way. People like Dr. Fauci have made it political.

Schools should be open. No question about that

The one size fits all early measures were most likely ill advised but we had little reliable information and leaders shot from the hip with an incomplete picture. A lack of testing, lack of solid science due to the WHO, the Chinese and the CDC, Fauci being a worst case scenario guy, and Trump’s refusal to listen to medical experts has created a shitshow. The Republicans (I have voted GOP since I was eligible to vote) have mismanaged, kowtowed to the Walmarts, Home Depots, and Tilman Fertitta’s, allowing them to stay open and draw PPP funds while locking Mom and Pop out of their business and PPP funds to survive. The Dems just want to keep throwing taxpayer money at anything and everything that breathes ad infinitum until we cure COVID.

Trump should have stuck to business, since that’s what he’s good at and got his medical advice from people outside of the government he trusts. The Dems should quit trying to buy damn votes and work with the other side to get us through this. The public needs to get over this “muh freedom” bullshite and realize measures (like masks and social distancing) will be necessary to any area that the numbers are rising. Nobody is trying to control your mind or take away your freedom, it’s simply to stop spreading this virus.

Nobody studies or talks about the Spanish Flu pandemic (there’s actually some theories and evidence it originated in China!) even though it is almost universally accepted that it killed more people than WW I. Which was assisted by stupid decisions like having a military parade in Philly that spread the disease like wildfire and overwhelmed hospitals.

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you people

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Show me where I've said they're overreach. I've said they won't accomplish the intended goal because the people that need to use them the most are the ones that won't do it and nobody will use them in the places where it matters most (and that isn't grocery shopping at Wal-Mart). I've not once said the government doesn't have the right to mandate them in public places.

Now, the next point. Who's talking about May?!

I'm talking about the shutdown that happened in MARCH. You know, when you could count the covid cases in many if not most counties in the state on your fingers?

If, at that time, the response from leadership had been "hey guys, we need to wear masks and cut our store capacities in half so this thing doesn't go crazy on us" a few would have grumbled but the VAST majority would have said "Ok, sounds reasonable."

Instead, they said "OMG we all gonna die" and locked everything down when nobody was sick. As a result, the people are now responding with a big Frick You to anything they say. I can't say I really blame them - and by the way I wear a mask at work and out in most public places.

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Ok. Any proof?

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Easy killer ... just going by the tweet , passing it along .... got any proof it wasn’t ? I really DGAF either way sad story .. carry on

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If, at that time, the response from leadership had been "hey guys, we need to wear masks and cut our store capacities in half so this thing doesn't go crazy on us" a few would have grumbled but the VAST majority would have said "Ok, sounds reasonable."

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If you truly believe this you're either a complete moron or totally delusional. Either way let me sell you some beachfront property. It's in an undiscovered little community called Nebraska. Real nice.

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I do agree that kids need to be back in school. My motivation is not the economic determent it will have on the economy if the schools are closed but for the mental health and development of these children as they are the hardest hit I believe of this virus for the indirect effects it is having. I, also as an educator, believe that remote learning needs to be a last resort as the value of in person classroom for social, emotional, and educational growth can not be reached via online.

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So what do you do if by mid-October there have been a grand total of ~15 days spent in school due to multiple outbreaks that were followed up by blanket quarantines rather than contact tracing and testing. Contact tracing and targeted testing should be something pretty easily accomplished, at least in elementary schools, but I'm not holding my breath waiting on it to happen.